CD Album - David Bowie - Hunky Dory - Rykodisc

CD Album

Artist:	David Bowie
Title:	Hunky Dory
Label:	Rykodisc
Country:	USA
Date:	1990
Catalogue:	RCD 10133
Barcode:	014431013324
Format:	CD Album
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	3 Own
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Eight Line Poem

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Life On Mars?

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Kooks

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Quicksand

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Fill Your Heart

Biff Rose, Paul Williams

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Andy Warhol

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Song For Bob Dylan

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Queen Bitch

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The Bewlay Brothers

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Bombers (Previously Unreleased Track Recorded In 1971)

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The Supermen (Alternate Version Recorded In 1971)

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Quicksand (Demo Version Recorded In 1971)

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The Bewlay Brothers (Alternate Mix)

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Produced by Ken Scott

David Bowie - vocals, guitar, sax, piano
Mick Ronson - guitar
Rick Wakeman - piano
Trevor Bolder - bass
Mick Woodmansey - drums

Originally released December 17, 1971

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Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		Started a forum thread for Longbox CD albums.



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		I've never even seen a longbox in the flesh, and to be honest, I have been only dimly aware of them until recently... ... but they seem to be one of those "issues" peculiar to CDs, that have yet to have definitive answers. Whereas Vinyl has had all these years of scrutiny and investigation, CDs haven't really been scratched at yet. But my problem with these longboxes is that if you were to apply the same logic to vinyl, then every label variation bearing the same cat would have it's own entry, rather than a single page with multiple variants of that one issue on... which seems to be where CDs are headed (reinforced by discogs adopting this approach too). (It's enough of a headache to deal with flags and markets at the moment! :)



Quad5point1 ● 26th May 2017		Wouldn't target or non-target CD haved exactly the same Cat# number anyway and it would just be a pressing variation. The longbox isn't a pressing variation, it's just a completely different product. Personally I think discs that were released in a longbox with a different Cat# that was used in the USA chart system to identify it should have it's own listing. Irrespective of having a disc inside that matches all other releases. To me it was obviously an American thing. Having said that, not all longbox numbers are different. I've seen Beatles longboxes with the CDP cat# and not the CCT one. It is as you say a bucket of worms!



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		Could it be a possibility that some entered here, have had the longbox thrown away before their current owner came into possession of it? ...and not knowing, added scans to later un-longbox-ed issues - which are the same CDs in every way. It may even be that the longbox was ditched by the record company, and the same CD issued as is - as far as they would be concerned, it's the same issue. So I begin to see the problem with longboxes as far as the site is concerned... ...it may be more correct to have those issued in boxes on the same page as the later ones without, if the cat / barcode and other CD essential details are the same. I don't think we make a new entry for a CD if it's a target or non-target CD do we... or a full colour face CD from a plain silver... isn't this much the same kind of thing, just a progression of how the issue is presented, not a whole new issue?



Lee Wrecker 26th May 2017		Magic, you say a few CDs with missing barcodes could be due to them coming in a longbox. I hope you're right and it is only the odd release here and there. I've had a look at the very few US longbox issued CDs I actually have and thankfully they have barcodes so it seems the practice of leaving them off is unusual. The alternate cat# that only exists on a longbox though is a can of worms though particularly for posters with second hand CDs or reissues.



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		Might be worth putting that in notes on the other one then: "Longobox", so at least they are not confused as a duplicate. (I should imagine there are a few albums by other artists that are entered here separately because of this absence of a barcode - due to having originally been issued in longboxes?)



Quad5point1 ● 26th May 2017		As shown on the Abbey Road longbox, the CCT Cat# on the longbox is the number in the Billboard chart and not the CDP or CD-PCS Cat#. So definitely not "just packaging". The link to that Billboard chart is here



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		People seem to have strong feelings about the longboxes. (for or against) But isn't that just packaging? -Collectible packaging though-



Alenko 26th May 2017		Well Phil you are correct. However this site allows uploading multiple images. Both issues don't have same back cover for example. Also, I can't and don't want to claim ownership of long box issue or an issue without barcode on the back cover if those two different issues get merged. I'd like to catalog (and I believe I'm not the only one) the exact issue I own. That's one of the reasons why I'm uploading every page of the cover and booklet when adding releases.



PhilMH 26th May 2017		To make my previous comment clearer, I think that the other entry without a barcode on the back insert would have originally come in a longbox, which would have had the same barcode as this later pressing. This entry, with the barcode on the back insert, would be a later copy from after longboxes were phased out. So, both copies as originally released would have had the same catalogue number and the same barcode.



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		I meant of course, to say: "housed" in a longbox, not "hosed" (almost spelt it: "longbob" there too :) ...but I'll take you're advice there Alenko, and leave them separate.



Alenko 26th May 2017		Well, I bought this CD brand new in 1996 in Virgin Megastore on Times Square and it was not sold in long box. The other issue for some reason had no barcode, hence those two issues should stay separated.



Magic Marmalade 26th May 2017		Were either of these issues hosed in longboxes? Is that the reason the other one has no barcode on the back? (It did seem odd that a CD of that date shouldn't have one)



Lee Wrecker 26th May 2017		Yes, merge in my opinion and yes longboxes are going to cause these problems particularly for USA produced CDs up till 1993 when they were phased out. While they were meant to be transitional packaging (to fit in LP racks) and were generally regarded as peripheral garbage they also sometimes contained alternative cat#s or barcodes as in the case of the duplicate entry in question here (linked below). Both of these CDs have been correctly listed by whoever posted them and as longboxes were made to be thrown away they will eternally throw up little problems like this for us here on 45 Worlds. Not such a big deal in this case as Bowie has legions of fanatical collectors but less well known artists may be more difficult to deal with in terms of evidence. We just can't assume cat#s and barcodes match as there have already been cases where they don't. Just look at the US releases of Let It Be and Abbey Road for proof of that. Here, we've listed one as international in line with the CD cat# on the CD packaging (Let It Be) and one as a USA release as the longbox cat# takes preference over every other cat# - although not changed to primary cat# as yet on that entry. The reason for that may be that most of the longboxes have long gone and the owners of these CDs would be unaware that there is different cat# to enter in any case. Whatever the reason is we need to be consistent and this going to a recurring nightmare - oops problem.



PhilMH 26th May 2017		See Discogs - originally issued in a longbox, which had the barcode, whereas the back insert didn't. I would be inclined to merge our two entries.



Magic Marmalade 25th May 2017		This looks like a duplicate, albeit it has a barcode, where the other does not... should they be on the same page?

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