12" Singles - The Specials - Ghost Town (Extended Version) - 2 Tone - UK

12" Single

Artist:	The Specials
Label:	2 Tone / Chrysalis
Country:	UK
Catalogue:	CHS TTH 1217 / 5060516096787
Barcode:	5060516096787
Date:	4 Jun 2021
Format:	12" Single
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	4 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Producer	Rating
A1	The Specials	Ghost Town (Extended Version)	Dammers	John Collins	Rate
B1	The Specials	Why?	Golding	John Collins	Rate
B2	The Specials	Friday Night, Saturday Morning	Hall	John Collins	Rate

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40th Anniversary Issue.

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Lee Wrecker 9th Jun 2021		Current practise on the site is that it is not always best to put what's on the label. For instance both the Music On Vinyl and Simply Vinyl catalogues are listed as being released on those labels rather than the facsimile labels that appear on the actual products. Similarly, the modern Rhino catalogue has used facsimile labels since around 2007 and these are all listed as Rhino releases. This particular Specials release however bears more in common with this 2014 Parlophone re-issue of Syd Barrett's "The Madcap Laughs". Our site preference for listing labels from boutique to major works well for products made in the last century but is not always a good fit after that.



Lee Wrecker 8th Jun 2021		Mission accepted Magic and a here we go! Well firstly Chrysalis like 2 Tone is also a facsimile label or imprint owned by BMG and has no current office or address. Secondly, in reference to Drawlbag's claim that Chrysalis is a UK only label well Chrysalis always was an international label and has always released product globally. A quick look at the Jethro Tull catalogue will show that from about 1974 on, after the Island /Reprise phase the Chrysalis label was releasing records all over the world. However, in reality BMG is the real label here as this record was actually made and distributed by BMG. All of the major music corporations Warner, Universal, BMG and Sony now control about 75% of all the music ever published and all of the labels the music was originally attributed to. So, apart from the need to appeal to the retro sensibilities of the marketplace the majors could technically release 75% of all available global music product under their own label name's. They don't but they could. All of the majors also have online outlets across the world where most of their catalogue (if not all) is available direct to consumers across the world. In countries like Australia most releases are also available in retail outlets across the country and sold as local releases not imports. This means nearly everything is international as, on this site, we use the intended marketplace rather place of manufacture as the main criteria to determine country of release. Unfortunately, this creates problems for our site as it is impossible to determine these facts from actually looking at a record or CD. We can't know what markets the release was intended for or what the real label is by looking at the product. Those days are gone and things are a little more complicated these days. However, this is still an international release that was released internationally through BMG using the Chrysalis label that they own and further utilising the 2 Tone Records imprint to appeal to the market and make it look like a similar product to the original release. The real cat# is of course the same as the barcode 5060516096787 which is common BMG practise. The rest is smoke and mirrors. So the reality is the big four music corporations produce music for the global market market and use their networks to distribute products across the world. So, whether the product is made in the USA or EU the intention of the majors is to distribute that product globally. Japan however is a different story and still has a major national market (due to the unique rights situation there) and also produces some international product. I still think this record is international due to the reasons outlined above. It is listed on Amazon Australia and the manufacturer is wrongly listed as ADA UK. This is the same as the other link I provided but the Alternative Distribution Alliance (ADA UK) is the distribution company for the catalogs of most of the labels owned by BMG Rights Management worldwide. So Magic, that's a long way of saying that this same record is available in Australia as a local release and you now have two listings to prove that this is the case and the wrong listing of label on both sites as ADA UK has now been explained. The label though is like everything these days and a very complicated web to untangle given the way the majors tend to present product in replica form regardless of who is actually really making it. I admire Rhino for being upfront about this aspect of their business and clearly marking their products with logos and giving them unique Rhino cat#s that confirms the item is their product. Others like to copy everything on the original artwork including old cat#s which makes some items seem more like a re-issue rather than a completely new re-make by a different label or owner of the copyright. There is a difference you know. Anyway, have you got enough to go on now, Magic? Too much? Yes, it is all a bit too much isn't it I think I'll have a little Nana nap now. If you need more clarification just ask and I'll delve further into labyrinth in search of truth and maybe some biscuits.



Drawlbag 7th Jun 2021		2 Tone had a deal with Chrysalis so all 2 Tone releases from the second single were backed by Chrysalis who owned the P & C rights. As for country, I think Chrysalis only operate in the UK so any records sold in Australia or wherever are technically imports.



Magic Marmalade 7th Jun 2021		>Thumbs Akimbo! < ...That's a job... time for a beer! :) ((Still open to changing to International though... if proven... Lee, your mission, should you choose to accept it....))



Magic Marmalade 7th Jun 2021		If it's any consolation Lee, I personally still think this is Chrysalis, and that 2 tone is "artwork", whereas the other example doesn't have Chrysalis on it, as you pointed out there, this does, both P & C to Chrysalis. Still, what is deemed right today, maybe thought wrong tomorrow, only time, items and the law of averages will shape it all up in the end.



Lee Wrecker 7th Jun 2021		Paul Vinyl, thank you for referring me to my former self to sort me out on this one. I think it's fair to say that 2 Tone label exists as an imprint in the Chrysalis stable even if they don't have an office or postal address. So, on those grounds Magic it's back to 2 Tone on this one by consensus. Hang on I'll see what the guy on the other page thinks ... no, all okay according to him too. The linked site in my earlier comment does say the label is ADA UK but I'm sure that is a mistake as the picture is certainly of this single. More likely it may be the supplier to the store than the label. Now what do we do with the Rhino/Elektra/Sire/Atco/Atlantic/Reprise do I need to correct this, this and this or are they okay? What about this one one a triple whammy Urghhh! facsimile labels are a nightmare.



Magic Marmalade 6th Jun 2021		Ha ha ha : D ... At least someone on that page knows something positive about the existence of 2 tone as a current label! The only question would be on country. ... I'll look in again tomorrow to see if any other opinions are forthcoming, but otherwise I'll switch back label order. (Especially if that guy on the other page agrees!)



Drawlbag 6th Jun 2021		The release date is wrong, I received mine in the post the same day as the Australian one was released, 4th June. I personally think it should show 2 Tone as the primary, it's on the front cover and obviously the label and has a consecutive catalogue no. All 2 Tone releases had catalogue nos. starting with CHS TT (except TT1/TT2).



Magic Marmalade 6th Jun 2021		Looks to my untrained eye like Chrysalis all over... ...Is 2 Tone a functioning label, or as Lee says, is it just artwork? ...But I'll let you fellows work it out, and come back to this later.



Magic Marmalade 6th Jun 2021		I will, of course, change the primary label to Chrysalis and 2 tone as secondary, for the reasons you give below... but.... ...In the link you've provided Lee, the label is given as: "ADA UK", which is nowhere on this submission's images. ...Different issue, perhaps? (Raised eyebrow emoticon inserted here :)



Lee Wrecker 5th Jun 2021		Apparently released in Australia two days earlier on the 04/06/21. So this is an international release. Shall we make it international? The 2 Tone label is defunct (has been since the mid 80's) and really only exists as a facsimile label that Chrysalis uses on relevant releases such as this. The label should be changed to Chrysalis / 2 Tone in my view because the 2 Tone label here is used as a facsimile to replicate the original release rather than indicate the actual label which is Chrysalis in this case. So as this is really a Chrysalis release it is not able to be classified as a UK independent label like it could if it were a genuine 2 Tone release. Emoticon of a a crazy arsed loon banging their head against a wall goes here.

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Linked Releases

UK - 2 Tone - 1981

Germany - 2 Tone - 1981

Japan - Chrysalis - 1981

Netherlands - 2 Tone - 1981

USA - Chrysalis - 1981