Latest Updates - The King Cole Trio

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Comment by Dale45 SUBS:

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Comment by lorangrecords:

Added label images

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Comment by W.B.lbl:

From what I've gauged, the "anvil" existed from the time the Scranton Record Co. came into existence (superseding Scranton Button Co.). Unless my mind's playing tricks on me somehow (a rarity, given my usual eye and ear for detail).

Whichever way you slice it, however, {Images #1243006 & 1243007} is definitely a circa 1945-46 pressing. (The "Reg. U.S. Pat. Off." from what I gathered, first showed up around 1947.)

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Comment by W.B.lbl:

Capitol was one of the first - if not THE first - of the major labels to use magnetic tape, in 1948. Thus they were in an advantageous position once the second AFM recording ban ended that December. They started out with the Ampex 200's where the recording head was opposite from future models.

I don't think the other labels got into tape until early on in the next year. Based on what I read in an Al Jolson discography, Decca didn't get on board the tape cavalcade until the middle of '49, and again with 200's. Columbia got Ampex 300's starting around Spring 1949. RCA Victor had their own brand tape machines to record and play back with.

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Comment by han enderman:

De 8520 - original label of side A added (should be moved up).

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Comment by jmontague42:

Cole's first commercial recording session
December 6, 1940, in Los Angeles, CA
piano/vocal: Cole
guitar: Oscar Moore
bass: Wesley Prince

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Comment by han enderman:

De 8535 - image A added (should be moved up)

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Comment by GimmeVinyl:

That.. Is an awesome website, xiphophilos! Very informative! Now, I've never been to Los Angeles, but I find it ironic that the Decca studios address on Melrose was next door from the building that Capitol Records bought in '49 to become their recording studio at 5515 Melrose. I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing this is when Capitol may have started using tape for recording sessions, if indeed the studio was set up with the latest in recording equipment..

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Comment by xiphophilos:

The Decca version of "Sweet Lorraine" has the matrix number DLA 2255A and was recorded at the Decca Studios, 5505 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, CA, on December 6, 1940.(source). So no, it's definitely not the same version.

Nat "King" Cole also made yet another version of "Sweet Lorraine" for the Mercury label, matrix 1894, recorded Los Angeles, CA, Summer 1943, and released only in 1948 on Mercury 15003 (b/w "I Found A New Baby" from the same recording session).

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Comment by GimmeVinyl:

My question is... Is this the same recording as Decca 8520 from 1941, or did the King Cole Trio record another version for Capitol? Not having the Decca pressing, I cannot compare the two...

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Comment by GimmeVinyl:

Hmm... I'm going to have to listen to this on YouTube... I'm thinking the King Cole Trio side is the same as Capitol 169.. Of course, the first track is the B side of the Capitol 78...

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Comment by GimmeVinyl:

Ok, my friend... So, the original pressing should have the "42" style label. I have that Capitol labels.pdf downloaded on my phone.. it is an excellent reference source! However.. since this pairing was released in September of '44, it seems to be, at least to me, that the "42" label would have been relatively shortlived.. depending on when the "45" label replaced the "42"....

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Comment by xiphophilos:

This label is definitely a repress. Capitol labels between 1942 and 1944 have the Capitol dome logo reach below the word Capitol. This label style, where the dome is cut off above the word Capitol, was used between 1945 and 1949. It's the Label 45 at https://www.friktech.com/btls/capitol/capitollabels.pdf

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Comment by GimmeVinyl:

Question, W.B.lbl... if the Scranton Record Co. pressed Capitol releases going back to the beginning in 1942, were they using the anvil mark on the deadwax since the beginning? Or was this something added after the sale to Capitol? There seems to be some confusion whether this pairing is a repress or not...

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Comment by MrPasta SUBS ●:

Labels added

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Comment by walk2013 SUBS:

Does anybody have an explanation why on the variant labels the composer is different for the A-side? Publisher Frank Loesser instead of DeLugg, Stein?

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Comment by SeverlyWarpedRecord:

This was the first number 1 album ever. Parts 2 and 3 were also number 1 when they were released in the following years