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slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - The Smile Of Molly Maloney / Yes! We Have No Bananas (1923)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas mgthomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on these two tracks (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - Romany Rose / On The Road To Nowhere (1923)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgthomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on these two tracks (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Topping Brothers - Down Among The Sleepy Hills Of Tennessee / Carolina Mammy (1923)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgthomas.uk website, Harry Topping is a pseudonym for Irving Kaufman and the Topping Brothers are Irving and Jack Kaufman.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM The Whitehall Dance Orchestra - When You And I Were Dancing / My Sweetie Went Away (She Didn't Say Where When-Or Why) (1923)	You will find these two tracks in Brian Rust and Sandy Forbes' British Dance Bands On Record in the Savoy Havana Band chapter. Per that source, they were recorded in London c. 11-Sep-1923.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM The Old Virginians - Until To-Morrow / I Want To Be Happy (1925)	By consensus of the American Dance Band Discography and Mike Thomas' mgtomas.uk website, The Old Virginians are a pseudonym on this disc for The Ambassadors and the Indiana Melodists are a pseudonym for Austin Wylie's Golden Pheasant orchestra. The ADBD lists Until To-Morrow as recorded in NYC in Feb.-March, 1924, and "I Want To Be Happy" as recorded in NYC in late September, 1924.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - Tea For Two / I Want To Be Happy (1925)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgthomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on these two tracks (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - One Million Times A Day / Rose-Marie (1925)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgtomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on these two tracks (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Jeffries And His Rialto Orchestra - Mercenary Mary / Honey, I'm In Love With You (1925)	Per Brian Rust and Sandy Forbes' British Dance Bands On Record 1911-1945, these two tracks were recorded in London in July, 1925.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Jeffries And His Rialto Orchestra - The Toy Drum Major / San Francisco (1925)	Per Brian Rust and Sandy Forbes' British Dance Bands On Record 1911-1945, John Thorne is the unidentified vocalist on "San Francisco". From the same source, these two tracks were recorded in London in May, 1925.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - The Toy Drum Major / Maggie McGhee (Two Little Rosy Cheeks) (1925)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgthomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on this (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 3rd Jul 2024		78 RPM Billy Desmond - My Murrumbigee Rose / Paddy Maloney (1925)	Per the Aco listing on Mike Thomas' mgthomas.uk website, Billy Desmond is a pseudonym on this (and many other Acos) for baritone John Thorne.
slholzer 6th Jun 2024		78 RPM Gloria Hart And The Heartbeats - Oh! How I Love You / Red Rose Waltz (1951)	This is one of two versions of the illustrated disc. The other version is essentially the same except that instead of having the same mx number on both isdes, the other version has mx 170 on Oh, How i Love You.
slholzer 31st May 2024		78 RPM Eddie Williams And His Brown Buddies - Houston Jump / Blues In Cuba (1949)	There are two versions of Supreme 1528. The illustrated version is, I think, the original. The other version has "You Need Me Now" on the A-side, except that the A side bears no side designation, hence my belief that this is the "replacement" pressing. There are also two versions of the illustrated disc. One has the word Vocal at the 3 o'clock position but no name is supplied. The other identifies Floyd Dixon as the vocalist in the same spot. I would guess the more complete illustrated version to be the later of the two. if anybody cares.
slholzer 31st May 2024		78 RPM Paula Watson - Pretty Papa Blues (Pretty Mama Blues) / A Little Bird Told Me (1948)	Two versions of Supreme 1507 were issued. The difference was the A-side title, which was as shown on one version and consisted of Stick By Me Baby on the other. Both versions can be viewed on the discogs website.
slholzer 31st May 2024		78 RPM Paula Watson - You Broke Your Promise / I've Got The Sweetest Man (1948)	There are at least three label variants available for this disc. Besides the illustrated regulation blue version, there is also a red version, and a white "not-for-sale" promo version. White promo labels are fairly common. The red versions are not commonly encountered in the 1500 series discs, although red labels were standard in the AP 100 series.
slholzer 29th May 2024		78 RPM Jeff Calhoun - Wreck Of The Old '97 / The Wreck Of The Titanic (1927)	This issue is a prime example of what makes Grey Gull discography so challenging. The A side of Supreme 4131 was made at least twice by two different artists (Arthur Fields and Vernon Dalhart) and has been credited to at least four different names, at least one of which was used to cover both of the artists' identities. To top it off, matrix numbers are sometimes used on Grey Gull products, and sometimes they substitute control numbers. Grey Gull has also been known to (apparently randomly) re-name a song from one issue to another.
slholzer 14th May 2024		78 RPM Tom Cook - The Butcher Boy / The Fatal Wedding (1930)	Country Music Records and the On-Line Discographical Project concur that Tom Cook is a pseudonym for Frank Luther and that George French is a pseudonym for Arthur Fields on this disc. CMR thinks the A side was recorded in July, 1928 and the B-side in June, 1928. The ODP suggests May for the A-side and April for the B-side.
slholzer 14th May 2024		78 RPM Tom Cook - Hand Me Down My Walking Cane / Twenty-One Years (1930)	Country Music Records at p. 769 identifies Tom Cook on this disc as Frank Luther recorded in New York in late 1928 or early 1929. On p.618 and 619, Country Music Records identifies Joe Adams and James Clark on this record as Bob Miller and Barney Burnett. The On-Line Discographical Project proposes Frank Luther and Carson Robison instead. This difference of opinion might account for ODP's assignment of a March, 1930 recording date, but note that the two versions listed by CMR are assigned recording dates of Nov-Dec. 1929 and March, 1930 respectively. CMR lists Mad 5076 as an issue for both versions, although other issues are assigned to only one or the other.
slholzer 14th May 2024		78 RPM Carlton Dance Orchestra - The One I Love Just Can't Be Bothered With Me / Boop Oop A Doop (1930)	Rust's American Dance Band Discography at p.688 lists a track that seems likely tobe the same as Side A: The One I Love Just Can't Be Bothered With Me credited to the Olympic Dance Orchestra (a Grey Gull studio band) on Goodson 197 (an English label that often used Grey Gull material). This track is shown as recorded in NYC, February, 1930, and is likely the source of the Online Discographical Project's assignment of that date to the same title on Mad 5059. The ODP proposes SL (prob. Scrappy Lambert) for the anonymous vocal chorus. ADBD acknowledges the presence of the vocal but declines to suggest an identity.ODP assigns the mx 233B to thist rack, with an alternate identity of 3889, in case that turns out to be a control #. The B side track does not appear to be in the Grey Gull studio band chapter of ADBD, nor is it listed under Fred Hall's name, that being the identity for the Synco Jazzers proposed by The ODP. ODP suggests AF (prob. Arthur Fields) for the vocalist and a recording date of Jan, 1929. The mx 189 on the label is acknowledged by ODP, but with a backup # of 3310.
slholzer 14th May 2024		78 RPM Joe Adams And James Clark - 'Leven Cent Cotton And Forty Cent Meat / Farm Relief Blues (1930)	Per Country Music Records, p.618, Joe Adams and James Clark are pseudonyms on this disc for Bob Miller and Barney Burnett. The disc was recorded in New York c. Nov-Dec, 1929.
slholzer 13th May 2024		78 RPM Tom Cook - Rovin' Gambler / Missouri Joe (1930)	Per Country Music Records p.769, Tom Cook is a pseudonym on this disc for Frank Luther. The sde was recordfed in NYC inl ate 1928 or early 1929. Thee Online Discographical Project suggests a recording date of Feb. 1927. Country Music Records at p. 618 id's Joe Adams and James Clark as Bob Miller and Barney Burnett, recorded NYC Jan. 1930. THE ODP concurs with the date.
slholzer 12th May 2024		78 RPM Billy Dalton - Can I Be Sure It's Love / Eva (1930)	The last time I encountered the Billy Dalton name on Madison it was ID'd by Country Music Records as Jack Weston. This disc, however, does not appear under Weston's name in CMR. The On-Line Discographical Project shows vocalist initials IK, which I would guess stand for Irving Kaufman, but you'd have to ask Steve Abrams to know for sure. Dave Sanborn does not appear as an artist or a pseudonym in any of my reference sources. It could be he is a real person, but because he appears on Madison, it is more probable than not that he isn't. The On-Line Discographical project lists vocalist initials AB, which may be a clue as to who Abrams thought it was, but no one comes to my mind at the moment. The ODP also proposes Sannella (presumably Andy) as the composer of "Eva", which might ultimately be better clue. A mystery for another day or somebody else.
slholzer 12th May 2024		78 RPM Smith And James - Left My Gal In The Mountains / The Girl I Loved In Sunny Tennessee (1930)	Per Tony Russell's Country Music Records, 1921-1942, Tom Cook on the B-side is Frank Luther. In Pseudonyms on American REcords, 1892-1942, Allan Sutton indicates that Tom Cook is possibly Frank Luther on Grey Gull labels but not on Madison, based on aural evidence. This is a very strong opinion by Sutton's standards. Other candidates listed in CMR's Xref for Tom Cook include Arthur Fields, Vernon Dalhart and possibly others (but bear in mind that Russell made his choice and it is printed on p. 776 under Carson Robison's name. The A side is listed by CMR on the same page, where Smith and James is apparently accepted as the actual identity of the vocal duo. Both sides are shown as recorded in NY, ?c. Sept. 1929. The On-Line Discographical Project is silent on the identity of Tom Cook and concurs with CMR that the B-side is a Carson Robison group. The ODP assigns different mxs and rec dates to each side (3626B in June, 1927 to A, 2483B in Aug. 1929 to B.) CMR shows the 3626B mx as a separate track from mx 135-A-B, with a different issue list (not inc. any Madisons).and a different artist credit (Frank Luther & Ed Faber). Mx 2483B may be listed somewhere in CMR, but so far I've not found it and I'm out of useful clues. If Tom Cook is Vernon Dalhart or Arthur Fields, this particular track did not make it into CMR under their names. Both chapters are selective for country material and selections deemed to be "Pop" are generally not included.
slholzer 11th May 2024		78 RPM Original Dixie Rag Pickers - Charleston Rhythm / Chinky Charleston (1929)	According to an entry in the American Dance Band Discography (p. 1631), the A-side track is by Ben Selvin AHO, recorded in NYC c. April, 1925. It was also issued on Grey Gull and Globe (no. 1278 in both cases). Honey Duke and His Uke is a well-known pseudonym for Johnny Marvin.
slholzer 11th May 2024		78 RPM George Anthony - Hallelujah, I'm A Bum / Rock Candy Mountain (1930)	Country Music Records lists Jack Weston as the artist on both sides of this disc. Per CMR, it was recorded in NY, c. January, 1930.
slholzer 11th May 2024		78 RPM Atlanta Syncopators - Kiss Me Soon Again / Sweet Little Sis (1929)	The B side is listed in the American Dance Band Discography on p. 684 under Grey Gull studio bands. The Altanta Syncopaters are also Xreffed in ADBD as a Grey Gull Studio band, but the A-side track is not listed in that chapter unless it was first issued under the title "Emilia" on the Van Dyke label.. Lest there be any confusion on the matter, such re-titlings were not unknown in the Grey Gull stable. If that is the case here, however, the re-appearance of "Emilia" on Madison 1939 as "Kiss Me Soon Again" is not documented in ADBD.
slholzer 11th May 2024		78 RPM Jim Anderson - Dream Mother / Moonbeam Girl Of Mine (1929)	The On-Line Discographical Project offers an alternate mx of 3437 for the A-side of this disc. It is not the first time I have seen the 5000 series number shown on a Madison label disregarded as mere control number. Perhaps the bigger mystery would be why they seemed to use controls so haphazardly. Why on one side, but not the other?
slholzer 10th May 2024		78 RPM George Anthony - Little Log Cabin In The Lane / Bird In A Gilded Cage (1928)	In Pseudonyms On American Records (1892-1942), Allan Sutton identifies George Anthony as a pseudonym for Al Bernard on one (not this one) Madison issue. I think that makes Bernard a prime suspect for this one as well, but perhaps someone who has the record would venture an aural id. Sutton also lists George French as a pseudonym generally in use for Arthur Fields on Madison issues.
slholzer 10th May 2024		78 RPM Harmony Dance Orchestra - Jeannine I Dream Of Lilac Time / Blue Hawaiian Moonlight (1928)	If the labels are to be believed, Blue Hawaiian Moon on Mad 1637 and Blue Hawaiian Moonlight on Mad 1639 are the same track. The mx number and composers are the same. I suppose there is room for a different take to be on each.
slholzer 8th May 2024		78 RPM Jos. Samuels Dance Orchestra - Venetian Moon / Miami (1919)	Interesting to note that the American Dance Band Discography does not list this issue or these tracks under Joseph Samuels' name, in spite of our having photographic evidence of at least one of them in front of us. To further mystify us, Rust lists Lyric 4203 on p. 1983 of the ADBD under Harry Yerkes' name with two completely different titles, to-wit: Everybody's Crazy Over Dixie/Goodnight Dearie. For what it is worth, it would appear that Rust's information on the Lyric label was at best incomplete and in some respects innaccurate when he went to press on the ADBD. At least four other Lyric discs are listed in the ADBD with completely different information than has turned up on other sources in a fairly reliable form.

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