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these4578s
7th Nov 2015
78 RPM
Miff Mole's Molers - The Darktown Strutters' Ball / Bluin' The Blues (1927)
Difficult to know which side is A or B - the "matrix numbers" printed on the labels and the dead wax are not the true matrix numbers but the original Okeh catalogue numbers, which was the unfortunate practice of Okeh records at that time - see the original Okeh issue of the Miff Mole side and the Boyd Senter side.

these4578s
18th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Lonnie Donegan And His Skiffle Group - Putting On The Style / Gamblin' Man (1957)
Gambling Man
[YouTube Video]

these4578s
18th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Lonnie Donegan And His Skiffle Group - Putting On The Style / Gamblin' Man (1957)
This is the recording the record uses, although the video is more complete, the record fades up quickly about 12 seconds in:
[YouTube Video]

these4578s
18th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Gertrude Lawrence - Do, Do, Do / Someone To Watch Over Me (1927)
Do, Do, Do
[YouTube Video]

these4578s
17th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Gertrude Lawrence - Do, Do, Do / Someone To Watch Over Me (1927)
Plays at 76 RPM

these4578s
14th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Harry Lauder - Queen Among The Heather (1910)
No, it's not, the GC issue is a later recording made in London.

these4578s
14th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Mr. Harry Lauder - Queen Among The Heather (1911)
Recorded September 22, 1910 (source), p. 8

Authorship credited to James Malarkey and Harry Lauder

these4578s
14th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Enrico Caruso - La Donna E Mobile (1908)
There may be a number of reasons for incorrect speeds being given. For example, this Victor Caruso side is noted by Victor as being sung half a step below score pitch, but did they tell the Gramophone Co. when they released it? If not, someone could think they had found the correct speed by tuning to the score without realising Caruso had transposed it down.

As to standards, in 1908 there was no standard. Have a flick through the speeds shown for John McCormack sessions for HMV & Victor between 1910 and 1924 - they range from 75 RPM to 80.4. And if you really want to see variation, have a look at his Odeon sessions between 1906 and 1909 - they go from 71.29 RPM to 84 RPM!

these4578s
13th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Silver Threads Among The Gold / When You and I Were Young, Maggie (1926)
The "cleaned up" version runs at the correct speed of 75 RPM. Perhaps they used a nice smooth 1940s pressing with round RCA Victor labels ;)

these4578s
13th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Mario Lanza - Ave Maria / Because (1951)
it runs about 2:30
[YouTube Video]

these4578s
13th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Sydney Kyte And His Piccadilly Hotel Band - Whistling Waltz (I'll Whistle Under Your Window) / Sweetheart (In My Dreams Tonight) (1932)
Personnel reformatted and decoded:
Sydney Kyte - Violin, Director
Alfie Noakes and another - Trumpet
Unknown Trombone
Lionel Clapper, Ivor Robinson - Clarinet, Alto Sax
Sid Lenton - Tenor Sax, Piano Accordian
Norman Phillips - Bass Sax, Violin
Norman Cole - Violin
Billy Thorburn, Jack Joy - Piano
Unknown Banjo, Guitar
Nat Allen - String Bass
Eddie Collis - Vocal

these4578s
12th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Sergei Rachmaninoff - Variations In C Minor (1925)
[YouTube Video]
It's just a shame whoever posted this ripped the CD badly and left short gaps where the track markers are.

these4578s
12th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Silver Threads Among The Gold / When You and I Were Young, Maggie (1926)
Correct on both label sizes. It's interesting to see how you find the date of the round label repressing, too :)

Out of curiousity, what gives away the Indianapolis pressing on the 1940s issue? I know that the scroll label i posted is from a record pressed in Oakland...

these4578s
12th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Silver Threads Among The Gold / When You and I Were Young, Maggie (1926)
There is no specific listing of this record in archive.org's Talking Machine World collection, as perhaps McCormack had gone out of fashion somewhat ("With all due respect to the Carusos, the Plancons, the Scottis, the McCormacks, the Tetrazzinis, the Galli-Curcis, the Macbeths and
the rest of that brilliant galaxy, there was, at one time, just a little too much insistence upon
them. But to-day all that is changed." - TMW, August 15, 1926), or perhaps it was released out of sequence earlier in the year (archive.org do not have TMW from the first half of 1926 available). 1170 is listed for October, 1171 for November, and 1178 and 9 for December, so I have inferred a date of November from this.

these4578s
11th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Kathleen Mavourneen / Love's Old Sweet Song (1928)
Yes that's correct, it hadn't quite shrunk down to 3" at the time of this pressing.

these4578s
11th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Kathleen Mavourneen / Love's Old Sweet Song (1928)
This record would have originally been issued with "Scroll" labels, these round labels are from a later pressing run

these4578s
11th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Mother Machree / A Little Bit Of Heaven
This is a double sided reissue from no earlier than September 1923, when double faced Victor Red Seal records went on sale for the first time. (p. 190). A correction submission will be entered when a more concrete date can be found.

these4578s
11th Oct 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - When / Bridal Dawn (1924)
Release Date from Talking Machine World, Jul-Dec 1924., p. 1153.

these4578s
10th Oct 2015
78 RPM
Lonnie Donegan And His Skiffle Group - Putting On The Style / Gamblin' Man (1957)
mine's vinyl

these4578s
29th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Original-Lach-Aufnahme - Die mißglückte Jugendzeit / Aus Stahl und Eisen (1920)
Confirmed, this disc is the same performance that was used in the USA for The Okeh Laughing Record.

these4578s
29th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Original-Lach-Aufnahme - Die mißglückte Jugendzeit / Aus Stahl und Eisen (1920)
The Odeon recording in your post, W-Be 6731 is a later, electric re-recording made in Berlin between April 3 - 10, 1928 (p. 615), with the performers not identified.

Funnily enough, Beka B.6739, mx W-34779 which I'll post shortly, is yet another electrical remake of the original routine, made in Berlin on April 2, 1928 (p.593) - in the very same studio, in the same week! - with Otto Rathke identified. I wonder if they got sick of performing the routine so often!

Heaven only knows why they recorded a different version to be released on Odeon, as Odeon and Beka were both part of the Carl Lindström company by that time. Sure, they might want it on different imprints to serve different markets, but why bother with another recording? Just press the same matrix with different labels!

I can't find any information about the other Beka version you've posted here at the moment, i'll have to keep looking.

As for the record that is the subject of this actual post, I'm 99% sure that it's the same recording that became better known as "The Okeh/Parlophone Laughing Record", but I'll play them both into a computer and line them up in the next day or so and check that out.

these4578s
29th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Haller-Revue-Jazz-Orchester - Barbarasong / Moritat (1929)
Recording date from The Phonomuseum, p. 147.

these4578s
26th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Ernest McKinlay - In The Gloaming / In The Shade Of The Old Apple Tree (1930)
This would have been released in the second half of 1930.

these4578s
26th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Peter Dawson - Six Australian Bush Songs (1923)
This is an acoustic recording, the selections were re-recorded electrically in 1927 and issued as C 1428.

these4578s
26th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Peter Dawson - Six Australian Bush Songs (1923)
"Six Australian Bush Songs" is the name of the over-arching work the songs are from. I guess there wasn't enough room to fit No. 3 on the two sides.

these4578s
25th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Imperial Military Band - Introduction to the third Act of "Lohengrin" / Hallelujah Chorus (1906)
@Eclipse_a: Does this record have any indication of another catalogue no. in the dead wax, specifically "38" or "064"? These would date it as a slightly later pressing. If they're not there, then this is an original July 1906 pressing and the catalogue number would be made up of the two "face numbers", 32195 / 32197.

these4578s
25th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Mr. John McCormack - Parted / L'Ideale (1911)
Yes, the A-side label really is printed that far off centre!

these4578s
25th Sep 2015
78 RPM
Mr. John McCormack - Spirto Gentil / Celeste Aida (1911)
Small amount of dead wax left on B-Side label to show disc catalogue number - numbers on the label are face numbers, which are different again to matrix numbers!

these4578s
19th Sep 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Come Back To Erin / Killarney (1924)
There's actually a difference of opinion about the speed of these sides, between 76 and 72 RPM. I prefer 72 myself, but we can all have our own opinions - isn't the internet wonderful!

these4578s
19th Sep 2015
78 RPM
John McCormack - Come Back To Erin / Killarney (1924)
Come Back To Erin - played much too fast
[YouTube Video]

Killarney - Played a bit too fast
[YouTube Video]


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