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Artist: Maud Powell Label:   Victor Country: USA Catalogue: 74135 Date: Aug 1909 Format: 12" Collection:   I Own It     I Want It  Community:  1 Owns Price Guide: Valuation Page » Search eBay #AD  » Search Amazon #AD This site contains affiliate links for which we may be compensated.

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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Maud Powell	Thais - Intermezzo (Méditation Réligieuse)	Massenet	Rate

Notes

Pianoforte by George Falkenstein

Company Matrix No. Take Number Date Title/Artist
Victor C-7098 1 5/19/1909 Intermezzo / Maud Powell
Victor C-15051 2 7/10/1914 Méditation réligieuse / Maud Powell

Victor 74135 (Red Seal 12-in. single-faced)

Primary Performers:
Maud Powell (instrumentalist : violin)
Recorded May 19, 1909

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alan8648 7th Aug 2022		Perfect thanks! I appreciate you taking the time to explain all of that. Alan
Mike Gann 7th Aug 2022		Correct. There are rare instances where a recording was remade with a later take using another artist because the original artist was deceased or for some other reason, unavailable. When that happens we can assign the year of the later take to the reissued record. Now in the case of the record you have here. The same artist re-recorded the title five years later. That could stem from the original master plate being worn out from the first take. Knowing the takes are important to us so we can figure out if it is an original pressing or a later pressing. It can be a tangled web, but with the proper information we can figure it out. As it stands, August, 1909 is the release date.
alan8648 7th Aug 2022		Aha! I think I might understand. Do I have this right? On the site, Date means Original Release date of the recording. So for this record, the recording on it has an Original Release date of 1909. So that's the Date to enter on the site. Labels on the other hand, evolved over time, so one could say - This particular record was sold around 1914-1915. But that's not the Date we enter on the site. Because that date is when the record was sold, not the date of the recording on that record. Thanks, Alan
Mike Gann 6th Aug 2022		The label designs (patents and so forth) do not have anything to do with the original release date. We can put the label variations in order. If it was released in 1909, it may have stayed in print until the 1920's and the appearance of the labels change. In your discography, the recording date will be in bold print, and if the release date is available, it will be in finer print. If is is not available it will be absent, or marked as "NL", which means that it was not listed on the original Victor file card.
alan8648 6th Aug 2022		One more thing...Not sure if it makes deciding harder or easier... When I checked my "Victor Red Seal Discography" book, there are two releases of 74135. 74135-1 - 19-may-1909 and shows "Falkenstein, George - Piano" - which is what's on my label. 74135-2 - 10-jul-1914 shows "Harp" instead - which is not on my label. So there's that. And I do really appreciate your help. Although you guys are nice enough to figure out and date for me, I'm trying to learn to do that myself. Thanks! Alan
alan8648 6th Aug 2022		Thanks Mike! Maybe you can help me out with dating - I'm just going by what I've found on the web. So says the internet...(ha) From 1908-1913 was the "patents" label era, that had Victor-Record on the label instead of just Victor. From 1914-1924(ish) was the Bat Wing label period, that had the bat wing and just Victor on the label. Many changes happened over time throughout that period. Early on in that period, from 1914-1915, the word Victor was on the machine on the label, then in 1915(ish) and after, the word Victor on the machine dropped off of the label. What I think is that since the "Victor" on the machine is said to exist on labels from 1914-1915, and there is a matrix number for that year, my record was released in 1914 or after, not in 1909 like I originally thought. Because - if the record was released in 1909 - I would think it would have the "patents" label having Victor-Record on it. Does that sound right? Thanks, Alan
Mike Gann 6th Aug 2022		@ alan8648 "I'm not sure about the release date". If you're not sure about it, then just leave it blank and one of us with the proper source will fill it in.

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