CD reissue of Stax LP#S 718 ("The Queen Alone", 1967) with bonus tracks.
Tracks 01-11: Stax LP (1967).
Tracks 12-16: Previously unissued Bonus Tracks, except track 16 previously released.
Compilation produced by Cheryl Pawelski & Rob Bowman.
Remastering by Dan Hersch at DigiPrep, Los Angeles.
Project coordination: Chris Clough.
Liner notes by Rob Bowman; includes 12-page booklet.
Art direction: Larissa Collins.
Design: David Gorman and Arthur Nakata for HackMart.
I agree Greg but think it would be easier if we could just add a country/countries from the Add Missing Info section. Then the region of origin or initial release could be preserved and users could just add flags like secondary cat#s. Since the globalisation of the music began in the 1980's Australia has been used as a test market for US independent releases and a dumping ground for oversupplies of stock from Europe and the US but mainly Europe. We also get a lot of niche market product (Soul, Blues, 50's Rock 'n' Roll, Detroit Rock and Jazz) direct from the US or Europe because producing a local product is more expensive than shipping in a few thousand to satisfy the market.
The point is that a lot stuff people think is either a USA or European release can in fact be made International on evidence such as is available in regard to this CD. The big problem with just tacking on "Issued in..., Issued in ..." is that our database will list the CD as International. This is fine in that it reflects the current guidelines of the site but it will not reflect at all the industry catalogues in this case European and Australian. The Vinyl Junkie pointed this out in a recent forum post.
So, we will create an International entry based catalogue data that is either irretrievable or at least buried in the entry and this will create confusion and a lot of multiple entries of the same CD. More concerning to me though is that we are in danger of creating a database that is unique to 45Worlds, that is difficult to use and very hard to find things in. I have asked a MOD /the MODS to look at this entry because it should be International according to the guidelines but I don't think that's necessarily the best way to list it in terms of having a user friendly database. It is a big problem.
MODS : Again,this highlights a problem with the way that CD's are currently made International.
At the moment,as here,a comment is made to the effect "this was also issued in ...." and the item is then changed to International,this is all very well and good except that no record is currently kept of the original country,so here for instance,no record of "Europe" will be kept when this is changed to International (which is not good as i and many other members have spent time identifying the country in the first place,only to have it wiped out!)so you end up with an International flag and some unidentified scans (as most scans do not have a country mentioned in their description field when adding an entry).I have suggested in the past,and shall do so again,that when a Moderator changes an entry to International,they add to the notes something like :
Was issued in Europe
Was issued in Australia
and that the original country (i.e.Europe,as here) be added to each of the scans description fields,otherwise,you're just going to end up with loads of international entries which contain loads of unidentified scans,only for people later on down the line having to try and re-identify images again to work out exactly which countries the entry has been issued in.Can you see where i'm coming from?,i hope so because if not,CD Albums will just be loads of pretty pictures and chaos!.
All i'm suggesting is that if you know it was also on sale in Australia,and you're changing it from European (or wherever) to International just add a note to the notes to say as much (i.e. it was also issued in .....) otherwise people will come across this later on down the line and wonder why it's International,if you know it was issued in another country (i.e Australia) then why not request that a note be added to say as much while you're putting in a request to change it to International?,it'll surely only take a couple of seconds.(PS,entirely up to you whether you want to do so or not,no pressure,just a suggestion as i say)
The problem here Greg is that nearly all of the Stax and Atlantic reissues of this era were available in Australia. I have at least 10 or so that I know about without even looking probably more if I have a thorough search. So if I request a change on this one I'll have to go back through and do the others. Not that I'm lazy but I can't really see the point of doing it because as you say it will cause confusion. I'm quite happy to have a European copy and as I buy music to listen to and not because of were it came from it doesn't bother me that much.
However, by not doing it we're not adhering to the guidelines and ignoring the fact that it was listed in catalogues and available in Australia in this form. What to do? And why is it that anytime stuff is proven to International there are always caveats and the need for further explanation? I'll hail MOD and see what they think. Correction sent but more to ask for someone to look into it and offer some advice.
If you're going to make this International,please could you add "Stock European issue that was also released in Australia",or suchlike to avoid confusion later on down the line,(just a suggestion;).
Hi Lee, yes, make it International - I would be very surprised if Universal went to the trouble of making this one in Australia, and I am guessing that they abbreviated the catalogue number that they gave to Platterlog (a lot of their numbers on Aussie pressings are abbreviated to 7 digits, but others aren't).
I have this European copy Phil which was the Australian release I'm ashamed to say. So, should this be made International as this was the copy available here and listed in Platterlog?
P.S. Australian release was 30th April 2007, according to Platterlog, with catalogue number abbreviated to 7230110. I don't know if that was a Euro pressing or Australian, but the barcode was probably the same. US copy (which I do own) does have the same barcode, though catalogue number is shown as STXCD-30110-2. Enough to make this International?