Lee, this 2011 remaster does surpass any previous release and noticeably, too. It is very good sound quality. The bonus tracks are just the cherry on the top.
Quite why they left off Everything Is Turning To Gold, I'll never know.
Thanks for the information Apollo59 the 'Made In The Shade 1978' bootleg looks great with six extra songs but this issue still looks pretty good too. I suppose the question for a lot of us is do I really need to buy another copy of Some Girls just for the bonus tracks. I'm glad that I know they're good because that makes this package look a bit more tempting but the bootleg looks the business to me.
Hi Lee, well, put it this way, it's definitely worth hearing and a few of the tracks are pretty good, such as So Young (which turned up later as a 1994 Voodoo Lounge period B-side), Claudine - a rather cutting attack on Andy Williams' murderous ex-wife, and even the Country tinged (my least favourite Stones music) Do You Think I Really Care is passable.
But I don't think they necessarily tarted up all the best tracks available as I have a bootleg with a load more of these sessions - listed here, titled 'Made In The Shade 1978'.
That said, if Jagger's objective was to make a selection of all the different types of songs from the sessions then he probably achieved that as they are quite a variety and not just all Rock 'N Roll numbers.
Hi Apollo59, well at least I proved something for all my mucking about. Point taken though Apollo59 and a lesson learned. Anyway, what's the extra disc on this one like? It's hard to believe that there was a whole album of quality Stones material from this period lying around for 33 years.
Lee, you've just proved that without hardcopy evidence the information can go tits up. I don't trust anywhere for information, as so often it is inaccurate. The only accuracy I can trust is what lies physically before me and that's the only information I can enter.
Well, everyone, I'm just back from the shop where I tracked down two copies of the Australian version of this CD. Thankfully, the link I provided earlier is wrong (as usual with Australian releases) and the Australian CD has a cat# 2784055 not 278 405-5. This I believe is enough to separate the releases because although the number string is the same there is no hyphen or space as in the EU version. Labels and bar code are identical so is it the same or different?
The scans on the link below show that the Mexican and Indonesian versions cat#s are spaced the same but my eyes aren't good enough to tell if the hyphen is there or not. We'll just have to wait and see when someone posts one I suppose.
Beggars Road, I'm on this runaway train and I know members will do what they do. I just wish the guidelines reflected what members actually do or are realistically capable of doing when entering a CD. I too have expressed my concerns in this area to the MODS and even started a forum on this issue about two months ago but CDs are a very tricky format to catalogue for many reasons.
@Beggars Road I agree with your statement "Dr. Doom's guidelines (of which I concur except the 'International' category)". However, it doesn't mean we can ignore them and as a rule matching cat#, label and bar code is considered enough evidence to prove a CD is international. You don't like it, I don't like it but that's way things stand at the moment.
Alenko, I'm not suggesting members check for International status. I'm certainly sick of it and I don't bother sending corrections very often anymore because it often leads to protracted debates with trainspotters about secondary cat#s, secondary labels and other irrelevant minutia. My question was "does anybody check for International status when new entries go in".
I would estimate that there would currently be at least 10 000 CDs of the 60 odd thousand on this site that need to be corrected to International. So simply just making a correction here and there is not going to make much of a difference in the scheme of things. What I'm saying is if the site and MODS want CDs listed a particular way they should lead by example and check CDs for international status as items are posted. It is fairly obvious that this does not happen in any way, shape or form.
Personally though I'd prefer CDs listed as from whatever country or region they were primarily made and marketed for. However, that is not how we do it here and while I have probably corrected (internationalized) a couple of hundred CDs the prospect of going through them all is not that attractive to me. Perhaps some of the International Brigade (those that like the international classification) should start going through them because it certainly doesn't appeal to me or my sense of what might be right.
No, I never check. I only list as International if I'm personally certain of it and had bought a disc in another territory.
I can only list CD's that I own as I find them.
I bought this on day of release in UK and wouldn't have a clue about South America or anywhere else and if changes need to be made ie Europe changed to International, I'd like to see hard proof such as a scan.
Well, I don't think it should be required of the members to search the internet to find if there is an issue from different part of the world that might have same info. Even if it takes 5 seconds.
Sites like this one are being constantly updated by the users (like yourself) who can always add/update the info.
Complaining is pointless. Just make a correction.
And for the record, International flag should be removed and ability to add multiple flags should be implemented.
The Australian (Australasian) release has the same cat#, barcode, label etc. so this one should be International. It was also released in Mexico, Argentina and Indonesia with the same details. Does anybody check for International status when new entries go in? I know it is tiresome to double check this stuff but if we have a system of entry that favours international listings (we do) surely we should check entries as they go in and not rely on site users overhauling entries as new versions appear?
While we have system that favours international CD listings we also have site users and MODS for that matter that prefer national or regional listing of CDs. This is a classic example it took me about 3 mins to locate four CDs from different countries with identical details to this and it wasn't that hard to do. Obviously, no-one is interested in actually following through in this regard. Why is it so? As Prof. Julius Sumner Miller used to say.
I know, watch this space the system is currently being updated but that's been going on for years now and there's been no new proposals for a revised system of entry floated for comment or discussion by site users.