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gregs45s SUBS 30th Jul 2018
| | @Lee Wrecker
:) To be honest Lee,i just enter CD's now from wherever country they were intended for,i don't bother about International anymore,as i feel it is a fairly pointless exercise,and in reality,only adds confusion where there is none,if a CD was intended for release in Canada alone,Italy (which we enter separately anyhow) alone,or any other country,then it should be entered as such IMHO (I should point out,that that is only my way of adding CD's,but i've been doing it for a while now,and no-one's complained,(yet);) |
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Lee Wrecker 29th Jul 2018
| | Well Greg, I certainly agree with your statement "no two people really seeing eye-to-eye" when it comes to entering CDs. The vagaries of the site are so great here that I don't even see eye to eye with myself sometimes. As things stand you can technically change the country to international and then back to the country without a problem. Don't laugh, I've done this many times but still don't know which way is up. Which I guess puts me in the same boat as everyone else.
As for "Hopefully,the powers that be have something in the pipeline". I don't share your confidence here because we've (quite a few of us) been banging on about this for four years now and we're still nowhere in this regard. My fear is that these problems will eventually make this part of the site such a mess it will be very difficult to use for any practicable purpose. On the bright side though if that's where we want to go we're well on the way.
Oh, to whoever the MOD is that has the thankless task of trying to sort this one out you have my sympathies. |
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gregs45s SUBS 29th Jul 2018
| | @Lee Wrecker
Hi,Lee,you won't have to go back and change any previous entries if they meet the criteria for being International,it's just that here,in this particular case,i believe the Italian and Canadian editions warrant their own entries that's all.As you know,i would be the first to campaign for "de-internationalisation" (i don't think that's even a proper word;),however,until something is decided,it's all still open to debate,with no two people really seeing eye-to-eye.Hopefully,the powers that be have something in the pipeline;) |
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Lee Wrecker 28th Jul 2018
| | Well, Leonard and Greg while you both know I agree that CDs should be entered as from the market/country of release unfortunately that is NOT site policy. If it were, it would make things a lot easier to enter items in this part of the site.
So, following the guidelines as I have done here by adding the two CDs with the same label, cat# and barcode is not the correct way to go. Does anyone on the site know what is what and how to go about entering CDs in this part of the site. As it stands, everybody is just doing there own thing and there is no logical (or even illogical) process to follow.
If what you are both saying now is the correct way to go I'll have to go back and correct a couple of hundred CDs that I originally entered as Australian then the MODS in their wisdom changed those to international and now I have to go back and request corrections to change them back to how I originally entered them as Australian. This proposition is not that attractive to me at all and is in my view a waste of time because the lack of effective guidelines gives me no confidence that whatever I do will be right. |
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gregs45s SUBS 28th Jul 2018
| | @leonard
Yes,i agree,the Italian CD's have always been listed separately,and so it needs it's own entry if we are to agree any sort of rules,and the Canadian one needs it's own separate entry too,as,although it shares the same Cat.No/barcode,it differs in having "EMI Canada" as well as "EMI United Kingdom" on both Disc and artwork,so,technically two labels.
I'll put in a request. |
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leonard ● 28th Jul 2018
| | The Canadian one is missing the box information (UK cat#, European price codes) is manufactured in Canada so why don't we list it as Canadian. Same for the Italian one. Putting too many eggs in one basket causes all the problems in my opinion. |
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Lee Wrecker 27th Jul 2018
| | Added Canadian issue with same barcode, label and cat# is this international enough yet? Does anybody check this stuff when it goes in? The current procedure of bang em' in and they'll sort themselves out is not adequate and the number of duplicate entries and incorrect listings on this part of the site are testimony to that.
Righto! that's enough of CD Albums world for a few days but every time I accidentally stray in here there are always problems. Sometimes I wish I didn't like checking in to see if I have anything in the Top 50 because every time I do I spot mistakes. Oh well, that's the way it is. |
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Lee Wrecker 27th Jul 2018
| | The Australian release has the same cat# but different barcode. Phew! not so lucky with Israel, Canada and Mexico though same cat# and barcode. The Mexican issue I still have doubts about as the other site does have a habit of copying details from other issues without verification sometimes and there are no images to back up the barcode given on this particular entry.
However, I've uploaded a scan of the Israeli label which is basically the UK label with "Manufactured in Israel by A.B.C.D. Ltd ...distributed by Helicon Records." somehow added to the label. The booklet for the Israeli issue is the printed in Holland version that accompanies many of the EU releases. International or what?? |
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robozuc 27th Jul 2018
| | Added better front cover and rear/disc manufactured in Italy. |
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Quad5point1 ● 7th Feb 2018
| | Added better disc scan to replace my original. |
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