CD Album - Supergrass - I Should Coco - Parlophone

CD Album

Artist:	Supergrass
Title:	I Should Coco
Label:	Parlophone
Country:	Europe
Date:	15 May 1995
Catalogue:	7243 8 33350 2 2 / CDPCS 7373
Barcode:	724383335022
Format:	CD Album
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	9 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
01	Supergrass	I'd Like To Know	Supergrass	Rate
02	Supergrass	Caught By The Fuzz	Supergrass	Rate
03	Supergrass	Mansize Rooster	Supergrass	Rate
04	Supergrass	Alright	Supergrass	Rate
05	Supergrass	Lose It	Supergrass	Rate
06	Supergrass	Lenny	Supergrass	Rate
07	Supergrass	Strange Ones	Supergrass	Rate
08	Supergrass	Sitting Up Straight	Supergrass	Rate
09	Supergrass	She's So Loose	Supergrass	Rate
10	Supergrass	We're Not Supposed To	Supergrass	Rate
11	Supergrass	Time	Supergrass	Rate
12	Supergrass	Sofa (Of My Lethargy)	Supergrass	Rate
13	Supergrass	Time To Go	Supergrass	Rate

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Louval 27th May 2020



RogerFoster 4th Feb 2016		I was thinking of this, as at Wikipedia MM!!



Magic Marmalade 4th Feb 2016		Cocoa Pops? ...I'm hungry now. You are however talking about numerous issues... but with CDs every copy of every issue is different!



RogerFoster 4th Feb 2016		Or maybe there is room for just one more comment .. :) Over at 45Cat there seems to be no problem with considering numerous re-pressings of 7" singles with the same original catalogue number as the same release, take TMG 555 - The Isley Brothers "This Old Heart Of Mine" as an example where over the years when this was available there were changes in typeface, legal blurb and a re-release/re-promotion. Maybe we are overthinking things here? And after that "helpful" comment, I can't help but think how deliciously ironic it is that this entire discussion is taking place on a CD Album called "I Should Coco"!!



Magic Marmalade 3rd Feb 2016		:) yeah... perhaps we'll lay off it now, and have a clear out of the comments at some point.



Lee Wrecker ● 3rd Feb 2016		I love it but I'm sick of the sight of it.



Magic Marmalade 3rd Feb 2016		People are thinking: "Blimey... that Supergrass CD is popular!"



gregs45s SUBS 3rd Feb 2016		I agree with you that it's harder to be specific with CD's,but surely that's only because there are more variants out there,and i don't believe we should stop trying just because there's "loads",and surely,the only reason you can't find a match to your CD is that no-one's put it on yet;)I still have faith in the way we're entering CD's here,and although sometimes it seems complicated,i feel it's still easier than Discogs,and i believe it will pay off in the long run.I would think,on average,surely,for any one country's release (one date),that there only would have been say,3-4 different printings of the artwork,and perhaps 3-4 pressing of the Disc?,i don't know exactly,obviously,and i expect there could have been more or less,but i think we would surely have room for that sort of amount of variations?



Magic Marmalade 3rd Feb 2016		That's what I was trying to get at.... you can't be as specific with CD details as you can with vinyl, as you'll end up with millions of entries for one issue. ...Many's the time I've gone to discogs, to look at the info on a CD I own, only to find mine doesn't agree with the matrix numbers - SIDs - etc. 100%, And as discogs entry style presents this kind of "identifier" info as definitive, it's easy to think: "Ah well, mine's close, but as it's not exact, it can't be that one". Maybe leading some to add theirs as a new entry altogether, even though it's the same thing! We need to "unclench" for CD entries (So to speak (!) (?) (!) if we are to get them right... take a step back that goes against what we know from vinyl... "You must unlearn what you have learned" ...as Yoda would, no doubt advise.



gregs45s SUBS 3rd Feb 2016		Blimey MM!.it's hopefully not got to that stage where we have to identify SID codes yet,has it?:).Fortunately,this site is mainly interested in just the Cat.No./label/barcode,which,to be fair i would think Discogs members should be able to add (although,it's always worth checking the pic's;)I don't believe that any one entry on Discogs is supposed to be representative of that issue,variants are being added all the time,just like here.If you look down their lists you will often see variations of the same Cat./Label/barcode combinations,even down to small differences in either artwork/Disc or both.The difference is that on Discogs to add a small variant they have to create an entire new entry,whereas here,on 45 Worlds we just add any variances/differences to the original entry by adding extra scans,with a note as to what the variation is (as long as the Cat.No./label/barcode are exactly the same),so that eventually,over time,all variations will hopefully be entered,and,who knows? it may be eventually possible to say that the Disc you're holding in your hand was pressed at such-and-such a plant in such-and-such a country by so-and-so at about tea-time;)(who knows,we may get a member who worked at that particular plant)(just joking of course;).I understand what you're saying about artwork/Discs being made all over the gaff,but as long as these variations keep getting added (no matter how small) eventually a much more complete picture of the issue will build up on this site.Let's face it,everything on the Internet has been input by humans (although i have my suspicions that some monkey's may have been involved;),so there are inevitably errors everywhere,and that perhaps is the challenge,trying to sort the wheat from the chaff;)



Magic Marmalade 1st Feb 2016		Discogs is good, but I'd be wary of thinking that even their entries are definitive... especially with CDs. Each entry there has the particulars read direct off the single copy in front of the person entering it, meaning that when you look at the listing for a particular issue, you are just looking at the particulars of one copy, presented as representative of all copies of that issue.... quite plausible with vinyl, not so with CDs. In fact, this is the point I'm making about how CDs were manufactured, and distributed: The whole enterprise was a fluid, evolving, and commercially efficient exercise in production and logistics... in a way not found with vinyl, where you can throw a very tight net around which plant pressed the vinyl, who printed the labels, and who made the sleeves, and for which particular market (nation)... but with CDs, there are more working parts, which were readily interchangeable according need. There's a SID code for the plastic disc,and a SID for the matrix pressed into it (The music), so that a given plant can take the disc stock from another plant(s), and press their matrix on to it, the cover booklets too can be from somewhere else, to, although imprinted with one country's cat# as requested. For this reason, you are as likely to win a couple of hundred on the lottery as you are to have the two SIDs, booklet, and other manufacturer info on your copy is to match exactly to an entry on Discogs... and just like here, many will have entered theirs as best guess, based on which of these particulars they have taken the country or national market issue from. In a sense, you are looking at the best physical description of free market economics, and how these markets have changed, when you look at a CD. As Paul Brady once said (and as is probably closer to the truth): The answer is: Nobody knows!



Graham7 1st Feb 2016		I have added my back cover here for reference. It does not have the UK cat#. I have not made any changes as I too am getting confused. Discogs have about 9 CD versions listed, just from 1995. I'm going back to CDSingles, they're generally much easier!



gregs45s SUBS 1st Feb 2016		No worries,Yeah,looking good Lee,you've got it nailed :).And,once they're on,they're on,for life! (or until the sun blows up or something;),so there's plenty of time for "tweaks".Keep up the good work! :)



Alenko 1st Feb 2016		Dutch entry is the same as this one. I think that submitter looked at Made in Holland and figure it out it was Dutch issue. It should be merged with this one



Lee Wrecker ● 1st Feb 2016		Thanks for looking into this Greg and coming up with a workable solution. Hope you like the scans, at least I'm getting the hang of that end of the deal. Anyway, I'll keep plowing on until the end of the alphabet.



gregs45s SUBS 1st Feb 2016		;).I believe that there are basically only two releases using 7243 8 33350 2 2 as the primary Cat.No.,This release 1/ 7243 8 33350 2 2 / CDPCS 7373 / Parlophone / 724383335022 which was issued in the UK and Europe (going by evidence online),and this release.. 2/ 7243 8 33350 2 2 / (no secondary Cat.No.) / Parlophone / 724373335022 that was also issued in Europe,as well as Australia and Canada with exactly the same Cat.No./label/barcode combination.And so we will eventually end up with two entry's 1/ European (this one) 2/ International What also may be confusing matters somewhat is the Dutch entry under "CDCPS 7373",which is actually the same as this European entry,i.e,i believe the long primary Cat.No. was not put in front,and it should have read "7243 8 33350 2 2 / CDCPS 7373 / Parlophone/ 724383335022",the same as this one in other words,so unfourtunately,and with respect to the original submitter,i believe it should be deleted,or better, morphed into the International issue that we will eventually need - "7243 8 33350 2 2 / Parlophone / 724382225022 / 1995".(PS.Apologies to the original submitter in advance if it does indeed exist,but i searched and couldn't find it anywhere;) @Alenko,quite often the release that has the UK secondary Cat. in the barcode box is also issued in Europe,and as the UK is in Europe,it is grouped together.Again.hope that's of some help here,but at the end of the day,don't get too bogged down in "technicalities",the important thing is to get the scans on,leave the fiddly bits to the Mods/members,including myself (who obviously has far too much time on his hands;)



Magic Marmalade 1st Feb 2016		I was caught by the fuzz once.... very painful!



Alenko 1st Feb 2016		Scans uploaded here don't belong to UK issue what should be done here is: Flag should be changed to EU and catalog number CDPCS 7373 should be removed and that would make this a correct EU issue.



Lee Wrecker ● 1st Feb 2016		I'm quite happy with whatever you decide Graham. Whatever's easiest and makes sense to you is fine by me.



Graham7 1st Feb 2016		I'd like to move all the scans of this to CDPCS 7373 (which has been entered as Netherlands but the CDPCS number wouldn't have applied there) and make it UK. Then make this entry the European copy, so the urls will match up nicely. My copy is identical, except, as Lee points out, there is no number on the back cover in the UK box, so I wouldn't call my copy UK. Can scan tomorrow if needed.



Magic Marmalade 31st Jan 2016		I certainly understand your frustration Lee... I've entered a couple of CDs that have been changed and changed back again etc. ... the real problem is that the period of time when CDs started, and as production moved through the nineties exactly coincided with the expansion of the EU, and the labels eating each other in these expanded markets, and I personally beign to believe that you can say almost anything about any given CD, and it could well be right - depending only on point of view. You check this site and that, and find different answers for the same thing, all with equally valid assertions. (Try the 1994 remaster of Dark Side Of The Moon, where the cover booklets and CDs were made in various parts of the universe and assembled haphazardly... My booklet and disc for that were made in different places, whereas someone else has both parts the same... let's not make the mistake of thinking that those who made them knew what they were doing (In the sense that there was an overarching, coherent, logical plan) or how to categorise these CDs themselves.) I just enter it as best I can, and let it be bashed into shape according to the prevailing consensus. (It'll probably change next week!) But your entry looks OK, so if someone else knows a little more about these details, I'm sure they'll change it.



Lee Wrecker ● 31st Jan 2016		On the inner disc the only discernible features it has are 8 33350 2 @ (well something that looks a bit like @) 1 written around the ring. Send a correction to change it if you wish Alenko, I personally don't mind or care that much about it. Personally, I feel there are two camps on the site Nationalists and Internationalists swirling around me like sharks and no matter how I enter anything it is wrong. My attitude is fast becoming - I'll whack em' in and you lot can argue among yourselves. Although I do get agitated and involved in this debate sometimes 95% of the CDs enter sail through cleanly. The 5% that hit troubled waters invariably involve the Nationalist/Internationalist schism between members and MODS on the site. By the way I bought my copy of this in Australia and it may well have been released here in this form but Phil will know that one.



Lee Wrecker ● 31st Jan 2016		Alenko, what you're telling me is what I said yesterday and I was told I was wrong in relation to these releases. See my comments on Supergrass In It For The Money at https://www.45worlds.com/cdalbum/cd/cdpcs7388 yesterday. The Mods haven't processed this yet and they can decide I'm just putting in the info the way looks to me. I'm just a collector cataloguing my stuff, where it's from etc. is largely irrelevant to me. Personally, I would say nearly all this Supergrass stuff is International but people on the site are not to receptive of that idea and unfortunately secondary category numbers, spaces, hyphens, and ancillary companies have all become commonplace tools for differentiating (Nationalizing) CD's. Yesterday I thought, wrongly, it was pointed out, that the same label. cat# and barcode was enough. Now you're telling me I was right all along. I can't win can I?



Magic Marmalade 31st Jan 2016		Sorry to stick my nose in here... just thought it might be worth looking at the inner ring info to see if that helps clear things up (or muddies the water further!) It just seems like one of those discs! I personally would agree that it looks like an EU release, as the UK number isn't on the disc or spine, and at the very least, as it has two cat#s on it, it was intended for more than one national market... both, it would seem in the EU (unless it's discovered that this was available in a country outside the EU... in which case, it'd be international! - more confusion - ) Seeing if other issues exist with different cats for other countries in the EU would ultimately resolve it.



Alenko 31st Jan 2016		That catalog number, under the barcode is just an information to expect UK issue to have catalog number CDPCS 7373. (That's how I look at it) That is not the area to look for the catalog numbers. Spine is the most official place on the release to look for correct catalog number. Besides CDPCS 7373, there is not a single other indication from the scans that this should be UK issue. When I look at any CD, and I have a lot of albums, I don't worry about any other possible issue. The info I need is on the disc. In this case, I looked through the scans and for me this is EU issue. (some might say it's Dutch CD because of BIEM/STEMRA on the disc. And by the way UK issue should have MCPS as the Society Rights) With one catalog number, which can be seen on the spine.



Lee Wrecker ● 31st Jan 2016		Alenko, why does the second cat# not apply as it is on the inlay? As I stated below the European issue I saw online is blank in that field. Then if it is a European issue should there be two entries one with the CDPCS 7373 cat# and one without?



Alenko 31st Jan 2016		Well, this issue should be EU issue Nothing indicates UK as place issued Also second catalog number doesn't apply to this issue. Info added matches UK issue. However scans belong to EU issue.



Lee Wrecker ● 31st Jan 2016		Listed as UK rather than Europe as the cat# is 7243 8 33350 2 2 / CDPCS 7373 the European issue does not have the CDPCS 7373 cat# in the barcode box on the inlay and is blank in the in box reserved for the UK cat#.