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Artist:Toni Braxton
Title:Secrets
Label:  LaFace
Country:USA
Date:1996
Catalogue:73008-26020-2
Barcode:7730082602020
Format:CD Album
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Community: 3 Own
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
01Toni BraxtonCome On Over HereT. Rich, M. Nelson, D. SpencerRate
02Toni BraxtonYou're Makin Me HighBabyface, Bryce WilsonRate
03Toni BraxtonThere's No Me Without YouBabyfaceRate
04Toni BraxtonUn-Break My HeartDiane WarrenRate
05Toni BraxtonTalking In His SleepToni BraxtonRate
06Toni BraxtonHow Could An Angel Break My HeartBabyface, Toni BraxtonRate
07Toni BraxtonFind Me A ManBabyfaceRate
08Toni BraxtonLet It FlowBabyfaceRate
09Toni BraxtonWhy Should I CareBabyfaceRate
10Toni BraxtonI Don't Want ToR KellyRate
11Toni BraxtonI Love Me Some HimA. Martin, G. Stewart, SoulShock And KarlinRate
12Toni BraxtonIn The Late Of Night / Toni's SecretsBabyface, Jonathan BuckRate


Notes

Executive Producers: Antonio M. Reid, Kenneth B. Edmonds, and Toni Braxton.

Issued in USA
Issued in Brasil
Issued in Canada

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robozuc
29th Feb 2016
 Hi Greg, my grandmother always said to me, if you touch the hot potato you'll burn ... as you can see I have not pulled back my hand even though I'm not the more qualified Mod. if there is a problem I try to solve it. :)
 

 
gregs45s SUBS
29th Feb 2016
 @robozuc.We have always listed any differences in Cat.No's separately
73008 26020 2 is not the same as
73008-26020-2 nor is
73008 260 20 2 the same either,otherwise they would have written them the same.Close,is not the same;)
Spaces,hyphens etc are often the indicator of the country whilst the label/barcode may be shared.If the intention is,and has always been,to basically keep countries separate,then this is still the road to go down.If however the intention/want is to bung everything together under International,then yes,i agree,Cat.No. differences could perhaps be added to the notes,but also consider what that would entail,multiple Cat.No's (searches?) and multiple images,which,at present,are not being identified by their country.Imagine if you will,searching for Queen CD's if nearly everything was International?,what surely defines a CD is it's country,and i suspect that is what most people search by,maybe some by Cat.No/barcode,but surely,not so many.That's why i personally feel that the International road is one we maybe shouldn't have even gone down in the first place,anyhow.With regard to my request to add the following countries to the notes,USA/Brasil/Canada,that was because the images are on Discogs,and i checked them,(and just double-checked them;)i didn't just pull them out of the air;).If i hadn't requested that "USA"be added to the image descriptions here,"USA" would have just been wiped out when the change was made to International,and images 336289/290 would have no identity,i've said this in both the forum and posts to Mod's but no one seemed interested.It doesn't matter that a list of countries may be incomplete,i think we should use what we know in the present and more countries can be added as time goes on.Whatever decision is made as regards the International debate,Moderator's and members all need to be on the same page to avoid confusion.
Addenda @robozuc.Apologies if the above sounds like a rant,and it's not directed at you,but i've always thought this was the correct way of doing things,and am getting a bit confused nowadays when i'ts questioned,and thereby question my advice to other members,i'm not a Mod at the end of the day,just someone who tries to maybe help with other members queries,so please forgive any inaccuracies.Of course,i realise that Discogs is no "Bible"(what is online?),and have alwaysadvised people to check other sites for confirmation,but i don't have many catalogues personally,and use them only because it's one of the few places online that list multiple versions of a CD.
 

 
robozuc
29th Feb 2016
 And now, we have an International entry but "International" not comprising Europe (what is the correct definition? semi-int./america continental :), just because in the cat.n., with the same numerical sequence, there are two hyphens (same barcode).
I can't dispel my doubts!
About the idea to put in the Notes the issuing countries (there is a pending request by Greg) I agree but we should be sure that the list is complete, even on Discogs (it's not the Bible) may be missing some releases of other countries and sometimes there are not correct images to support them.

I see, this one, in this way:
- unique International entry
- specify in Notes the difference between the two cat.n.
73008 26020 2 Europe - India - Jamaica (made in EC)
73008-26020-2 USA, Brasil, Canada, Malaysia...and probably more
-logically images will have country description (USA) (Europe) ...

Opinions?
 

 
RogerFoster
28th Feb 2016
 Lets just hope that someone from the record company doesn't come on here and tell us that those hyphens (or lack of) were a printing error :rolleyes:
 

 
Lee Wrecker
28th Feb 2016
 Phil, this is CD world and commonsense and usual practice counts for nothing here. Spaces, hyphens and preceding zeros are all the go in wonderful CD world.
 

 
PhilMH
28th Feb 2016
 I would have thought that, as the barcode was the same, and the catalogue number is the same except for the dashes, that the European disc could have been added to this entry as a second catalogue number. Vinyl LP world has second catalogue numbers added to entries when there are differences in alpha prefixes, so I can't see why it would have been a big deal to have all releases with the same barcode and a tiny variation in the cat number here. Hopefully it won't be too long before we get a definitive answer from management.
 

 
RogerFoster
28th Feb 2016
 It's been pointed out to me that my "European" copy has no hyphens in the catalogue number which technically makes it a different release (at least here on 45Worlds), so I've now entered The European version of this as a separate issue.
 

 
gregs45s SUBS
26th Feb 2016
 @RogerFoster.Hi,there's Brasilian,Malaysian and Canadian issues on Discogs with exactly the same Cat.No./Label/Barcode combination,so International (I've put a request in:)
 

 
RogerFoster
26th Feb 2016
 Maybe this should be an "International" release, as it came out in Europe with an identical Cat# and Barcode, although the European pressings did have additional logos for Arista and BMG, which are not on the US Version (see images 988434 and 988443).

Any ideas anyone?
 


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