CD Album - Sam And Dave - The Best Of Sam & Dave - Atlantic

CD Album

Artist:	Sam And Dave
Title:	The Best Of Sam & Dave
Label:	Atlantic
Country:	Europe
Date:	1998
Catalogue:	7567-81279-2
Barcode:	075678127922
Format:	CD Album
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	6 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
01	Sam And Dave	A Place Nobody Can Find		Rate
02	Sam And Dave	Good Night Baby		Rate
03	Sam And Dave	I Take What I Want	Hayes, Porter, Hodges	Rate
04	Sam And Dave	Sweet Home	Hayes, Porter	Rate
05	Sam And Dave	You Don't Know Like I Know	Hayes, Porter	Rate
06	Sam And Dave	Hold On, I'm Comin'	Hayes, Porter	Rate
07	Sam And Dave	Said I Wasn't Gonna Tell Nobody	Hayes, Porter	Rate
08	Sam And Dave	You Got Me Hummin'	Hayes, Porter	Rate
09	Sam And Dave	When Something Is Wrong With My Baby	Hayes, Porter	Rate
10	Sam And Dave	Small Portion Of Your Love	Hayes, Porter	Rate
11	Sam And Dave	Soothe Me	Sam Cooke	Rate
12	Sam And Dave	Soul Man	Hayes, Porter	Rate
13	Sam And Dave	May I Baby	Hayes, Porter	Rate
14	Sam And Dave	I Thank You	Hayes, Porter	Rate
15	Sam And Dave	Wrap It Up	Hayes, Porter	Rate
16	Sam And Dave	Still Is The Night		Rate
17	Sam And Dave	You Don't Know What You Mean To Me	Eddie Floyd, Steve Cropper	Rate
18	Sam And Dave	This Is Your World		Rate
19	Sam And Dave	Can't You Find Another Way Of Doing It	Banks, Jackson	Rate
20	Sam And Dave	Soul Sister, Brown Sugar	Hayes, Porter	Rate
21	Sam And Dave	Come On In		Rate

Notes

tracks 1-13 produced by jim stewart at stax studios, "soulsville" memphis tennessee. tracks 14-21 produced by isaac hayes & dave porter. mfd in germany by record service gmbh, alsdorf.

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Comments and Reviews


PhilMH 13th Apr 2020		Exactly. As a fairly recent example, Bob Dylan's Live In Sydney 1966 2LP set says "Made In The EU" on the cover (which also shows Sony Music's address in Germany) but surprise, surprise, it was only released in Australia. Changing it to Germany (as someone on Discogs did before it was changed back) or EU would cause it to "lose its identity", and for many modern releases today, their "identity' is International, particularly those coming from Universal, which has a division within its Netherlands office specifically dealing with international releases. Some recent US Universal releases have discs made in Mexico, that doesn't necessarily make them Mexico releases - it doesn't necessarily make them NOT Mexico either, they could be US, AND Mexico, AND Canada, AND Central America, AND South America, AND Puerto Rico, AND the West Indies for all I know, and I would most likely enter them as US initially, but if members in those countries were to tell me that the same copies were released by the relevant record companies in their markets, then I would believe them, as they presumably have some knowledge of the situation. I am really browned off about being told that something is not an Australian release by people who don't live here!



The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS ● 13th Apr 2020		By putting official Australian releases as Europe, you are using "Country of Manufacture" and not "Country of Release" which does not follow A guide to 'Which Country?'



Lee Wrecker 12th Apr 2020		Leonard and Greg, While I appreciate your perspective it is inherently flawed. One reason why is that we can't preference countries of release over each other and then still claim to be creating an accurate global database. What we will create instead will be an accurate USA and EU database and for the rest of the world will it will be a shambles. The sticking point here is that this was released in Australia as a local release and in my opinion should be listed as an Australian release for that reason alone. Much like the way we deal with Italy in other parts of the site (in different circumstances I know but the idea is the same). In the case of this CD there were at least two Australian releases, this one and a later locally manufactured edition. We should list both as Australian releases and the EU (this CD) should be entered as both an Australian and EU release. Putting "released in Australia" in the notes does not overcome the problem encountered when searching by country for ALL that countries releases. They just simply would not appear at all and therefore the accurate database argument is dead in the water. What you really are advocating is an accurate database for the EU and USA. This does not work for those of us in the rest of the world and doesn't provide us with anything that looks like an accurate database. Now to secret cyber-handshake deals. Just because a few high profile contributors agree in private (or on the site) to go about things a certain way does not make that site policy. We have all wafted and waned, changed tack and adopted new approaches on how to enter CDs on the site. This is a problem because these approaches are not covered by the site guidelines and if you want to alienate people this is the best way to go about it i.e have a set of guidelines that no-one follows and competing camps of self-righteous knobs (I include myself here) banging on about what they do or how to do it better. I think we need to take this back to the forum and sort it out once for all. We all have a better handle on it now and I know it's not easy but the status quo is not at all satisfactory from outside the EU or USA. Have a look at how this is playing out with modern vinyl LPs as well. Here are my latest entries one made in the EU and one made in the USA both official local Australian releases, The problem is not restricted to CDs as manufacture and distribution of LPs is now the same as it is (was) for CDs. So my new method of entry is officially released in Australia as local product is listed by me at least as Australian. Now can you see what would happen to the accuracy of the Australian database if these albums were changed to EU or USA releases. These items would completely disappear just like they would if they were changed to international. So, no I'm not advocating changing anything to international but them's the rules we live by and I will point it out until it changes to something better.



leonard 1st Apr 2020		Totally agree with gregs view. We're trying to make a workable dbase, not one quarter listed as German, another quarter listed as International and half listed as Europe. All ending up as homeless. One time Australia imports from the USA, another time from England and then again from Europe. It will get a mess. No International from me since starting....



gregs45s SUBS 1st Apr 2020		Lee & Phil Gents, the last i heard weren't we going to stop using International as a catch-all?, this, and many like it, were/are European releases, shipped to Australia, and, whilst i appreciate that the same product was also on sale in Australia, do we really need to make these International?, as soon as you do that, it loses it's identity. It goes from being European, which it is, to a mystery that only people who know what they are looking at can determine. Much better surely, simply to add to notes "Also on sale in Australia at a regular price", or such like, until a multiple flag system (as i have previously suggested) or similar can be put in place to identify exactly which countries the CD was issued in, much less confusing for all our members surely?. I personally, have stopped making thing International quite a few months back (and will continue to do so now) when, (i thought) some sort of a consensus was reached to agree to stop using it.



Lee Wrecker 1st Apr 2020		Thanks PhilMH the same thing would apply to this whole "Soul Classics" series. I would have bought this Sam And Dave CD between 1993-5 along with this one where the same thing would apply. All should be listed as international except the Australian issues with the slightly different barcode. WEA also distributed the "Warner Archives" series and the "Atlantic and Atco Masters" series to Australia as well. In fact nearly everything owned and manufactured by WEA in the EU has made it to our shores so identifying anything as an EU release from WEA is more than likely to really be international. We have the other problem at our end where there are multiple international releases and some locally produced releases all in the same market sometimes even simultaneously. Beatles releases also fall into the same basket of having both EU and local pressings available as local Australian product.



PhilMH 31st Mar 2020		OK, I've just rechecked Platterlog and my own copy, and it looks like I didn't check too closely back in 2016. The Platterlog listing, and my own copy, are the disc with the shorter catalogue number and the shorter barcode (no 0 at the beginning or the second 2 at the end), so that would be the 1987 release (October 1987, according to the big red 1988 Music Master main catalogue). Platterlog continued to list it under that number until sometime in 1997 (though I suspect Warners had actually replaced it with the longer number copies sometime before, but didn't consider it to be a reissue as such, and so didn't advise Platterlog); it was gone from the February 1998 Platterlog, and then the February 1999 catalogue lists THE VERY BEST OF SAM & DAVE on Rhino, which has an entirely different catalogue number. I would have suggested merging these two entries (1987 and "1998") together were it not for the slightly different barcodes, so I think this one needs to stay separate, but with the year removed and left blank as I think a version with this number would have been released before 1998 (and probably before 1994, which is when SID codes were introduced), and this site doesn't go to the lengths that Discogs does in ascribing different dates to different pressings with exactly the same catalogue number and barcode. Presuming that Lee bought his copy at one of the regular Aussie music outlets rather than a dedicated import shop, I think there's a case for this to be made International (as the 1987 copy should be, too).



Lee Wrecker 31st Mar 2020		Back in 29th Jan 2016 PhilMH said this "pretty sure that it was a local release (Australia); this number was already listed in the first Platterlog (Australian catalogue ) main catalogue that I got (August 1988). I've added some information in the first two sets of brackets for clarity. Discogs lists two different cat#s for the 1987 release date this one and the abbreviated cat# 781 279-2. So they don't know which came first and when the cat#s changed. I would have bought this as a local Australian release somewhere between 1990-93 but Phil's catalogue listing of 1988 would be a good place to start if we want to change the release date. All of these "Original Atlantic Recordings" EU manufactured series were released in Australia as local product. Sometimes a local version was manufactured too so Australia often has two or three local releases homemade and some EU made as cat#s changed over time. Confused? Or is that making sense.



philwill SUBS 31st Mar 2020		1998 is highly unlikely for a release without SID Codes and there are none visible in the CD image. The cat# for the original 1987 CD release is 781279-2 as shown in Music Master Singles Catalogue 3rd Ed. (1990) and on 781 279-2; the expanded cat#s, as here, were introduced in the early 1990s. The 1998 reissue had a matrix 756781279-2.3 10/98 according to here; the matrix shown here is 756781279-2.2 RSA. Perhaps the date should be removed?



Lee Wrecker 29th Jan 2016		A good case for an International release then Phil. I also bought my copy locally at reg. price but that is the case with a lot European releases ie. the entire David Bowie catalogue, many Rhino productions, anything by Disky, CeDe International, some Charly stuff and list goes on. It's just easier to list as per CD details in most cases. Australia must be a dumping ground for a lot of European and even US stock over runs as most of this stuff lands here at discount prices.



PhilMH 29th Jan 2016		Bought my copy locally, at a shop that did both local releases and imports, but pretty sure that it was a local release; this number was already listed in the first Platterlog main catalogue that I got (August 1988).



Lee Wrecker 28th Jan 2016		Added a full set of scans to this one, there are a number of owners already so thanks are due to the unknown individual that actually did the listing. No need to moderate as no images were previously posted.



ppint. 15th Jan 2016		p'mister: sorry, it's been credited as my correction, not yours; i've (re-)requested it be credited to you. . .



ppint. 5th Jan 2016		p'mister: you are right - "mea culpa, mea culpa..." correction (attributed to you) submitted just now. (edit 6/12/2022: still not credited to popmister. it seems giving credit to somecatter else is verboten.)



PopMister 3rd Jan 2016		Track 21 is titled "Come On In"

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