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Artist:Hothouse Flowers
Title:Home
Label:  London / FFRR
Country:Europe
Date:Jun 1990
Catalogue:828197.2
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Format:CD Album
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Community: 3 Own
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
01Hothouse FlowersHardstone CityHothouse FlowersRate
02Hothouse FlowersGive It UpHothouse FlowersRate
03Hothouse FlowersChristchurch BellsHothouse FlowersRate
04Hothouse FlowersSweet MarieHothouse FlowersRate
05Hothouse FlowersGiving It All AwayHothouse FlowersRate
06Hothouse FlowersShut Up And ListenHothouse FlowersRate
07Hothouse FlowersI Can See Clearly NowJohnny NashRate
08Hothouse FlowersMoviesHothouse FlowersRate
09Hothouse FlowersEyes Wide OpenHothouse FlowersRate
10Hothouse FlowersWaterHothouse FlowersRate
11Hothouse FlowersHomeHothouse FlowersRate
12Hothouse FlowersTrying To Get ThroughHothouse FlowersRate
13Hothouse FlowersDance To The StormHothouse FlowersRate
14Hothouse FlowersSeoladh Na NGamhnaTrad.Rate


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Lee Wrecker
10th Jun 2021
 Hello gregs 45s, you are right to relieve yourself from the stress of the International Affair as you call it but unfortunately we haven't changed any guidelines or processes involving the entry system for country since they were introduced. So the guidelines are still designed to create and promote the creation of international releases. You are right in saying that many on the site do not follow this practise and also have agreed to not use the category due to the effect it has on national catalogues and difficulty it creates actually finding products on the site.

However, nothing has actually officially changed in this space and the guidelines are still the same as when CD Albums world was launched. The fact that you think something has changed intrigues me because it seems that a lot of EU based site users and MODS seem to think similarly. As you know this issue will completely obliterate the national catalogues of many countries outside the USA and EU as most modern global product is made in either of these two jurisdictions and shipped around the world as the major music corporations see fit.

Prior to this smaller nations had their own means of production and produced nationally made versions of the same CDs (often with the same cat#, barcode etc.) and these are easier to differentiate due the different places of manufacture and also secondary rights or publishing details may also vary from country to country. This CD for instance is manufactured and distributed by Polygram in Canada and Polydor in Australia but all have the same cat#, barcode and primary label.

Internationalising products also renders the USA and EU catalogues useless as these releases also disappear in the international catch all that we have created when we link them another release from a different country with the same details. These problems have existed since day one with the international category and persist to this day. The Mods have promised many times to address the issue but we are still waiting for some direction from them. It is well past time for a response and site spirals out of control while we wait. This will not be resolved by "bangin' them and they'll sort themselves out" as is often said. In fact, currently that tactic is making things worse with everyone essentially choosing their own criteria for entries and guidelines generally being ignored.

What we now have is a lot of stuff on a site where the data is not consistently entered, monitored or regulated. Are trying to emulate a government?
 

 
gregs45s SUBS
10th Jun 2021
 If i have made a previous comment to change to International then i'm pretty sure that must have been a while ago now (?), when the International thing was the way we were doing things, and, if that's the case then i apologise, but i have made many such comments before, but they were relevent/correct at the time of writing, but now/fairly recently i thought things had changed, and we weren't making things International to aid searches.
Please don't patronise me MM, i am fully aware that the European grouping of course constitutes more than one country (usually), and if that two or more countries are involved then by definition it's International, what i am saying is that surely we should stop grouping together on this site, or has logic totally gone AWOL :)
(The Canadian/Australian entries only are an exact match if you REALLY feel the need to lump these two together, then you're the Mod, but to what end?, both country ID's will be lost in the process for the sake of making two entries into one)
(Anyhow, i did what i said i wasn't going to do by getting involved in this whole International affair, and, sure enough, it has only brought stress again, i should have learned by now, so i'm outy))
 

 
gregs45s SUBS
10th Jun 2021
 ?
I thought we were going to stop making entries International,?
Because as soon as that happens the entry then loses it's true origin, i.e, UK/European/US etc.
Why not leave this as European and When the Canadian one comes along it can be entered as Canadian, and the Australian left as it is as Australian, surely three separate entries under the correct countries is far better than bunging it all in the "International" bin where they effectively lose their identity and are therefore lost in the system.
If someone wants to look for the Canadian release for example, they are unlikely to look at an International entry, it's just complicating things further and making them harder to find.
This has been discussed many times before, and i thought it was getting towards being sorted.
Please don't go changing thing to International just for the sake of it, what's the point?, when you can already have 3 correctly identified/matched images/entries to their respective countries.
(The Canadian release by the way is only an exact match to the Australian entry as the label is London/Polydor.)
So, surely, it's worth keeping them separate for the sake of amalgamating just two releases in this and virtually all cases.
In most cases of potential "International" exact (Label/Barcode/Cat.No.) matches, it's usually only two or three CD's that have EXACTLY the same Label/Barcode/Cat.No in my experience, so why can't we just leave them under their two or three respective countries?, surely, you're not running out of server space already deep within the mountains of Switzerland ;)
(If it ain't broke...)
 

 
Magic Marmalade
9th Jun 2021
 New International entry made from copy of The_Vinyl Junkie's lead image, and Quad5point1 and plocky45's European disc / cover images.

This was also available in Canada, so is International.
 


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