CD Album - Marvin Gaye - You're The Man - Motown

CD Album

Artist:	Marvin Gaye
Title:	You're The Man
Label:	Motown / Universal
Country:	Europe
Date:	26 Apr 2019
Catalogue:	B0030051-02
Barcode:	602577584015
Format:	CD Album
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	2 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
01	Marvin Gaye	You're The Man	Marvin Gaye, Kenneth Stover	Rate
02	Marvin Gaye	The World Is Rated X	Marilyn McLeod, Mel Bolton, Robert L Gordy, Ezra Bolton	Rate
03	Marvin Gaye	Piece Of Clay	Gloria Jones, Pamela Sawyer	Rate
04	Marvin Gaye	Where Are We Going?	Larry Mizell, Larry Gordon	Rate
05	Marvin Gaye	I'm Gonna Give You Respect	Willie Hutch	Rate
06	Marvin Gaye	Try It, You'll Like It	Willie Hutch, Kathy Wakefield	Rate
07	Marvin Gaye	You Are That Special One	Willie Hutch	Rate
08	Marvin Gaye	We Can Make It Baby	Willie Hutch	Rate
09	Marvin Gaye	My Last Chance	Marvin Gaye	Rate
10	Marvin Gaye	Symphony	Marvin Gaye, William Robinson	Rate
11	Marvin Gaye	I'd Give My Life For You	Marvin Gaye	Rate
12	Marvin Gaye	Woman Of The World	Larry Mizell, Larry Gordon	Rate
13	Marvin Gaye	Christmas In The City (Instrumental)	Marvin Gaye, Forest Hairston	Rate
14	Marvin Gaye	You're The Man (Version 2)	Marvin Gaye, Kenneth Stover	Rate
15	Marvin Gaye	I Want To Come Home For Christmas	Marvin Gaye, Forest Hairston	Rate
16	Marvin Gaye	I'm Going Home (Move)	Marvin Gaye, Kenneth Stover	Rate
17	Marvin Gaye	Checking Out (Double Clutch)	Marvin Gaye	Rate

Notes

Original Motown recordings from 1971-1972, reputed to have been candidates for inclusion on a vinyl LP to be released by Marvin Gaye in The USA as Tamla 316.

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Number: 1980397 THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Front Cover	Number: 1980398 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: CD Disc	Number: 1980399 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: CD Tray Insert	Number: 1980400 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Booklet Tracklist 1
Number: 1980402 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Booklet Tracklist 2	Number: 1980403 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Booklet Tracklist 3	Number: 1980405 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Booklet Tracklist 4	Number: 1980406 Uploaded By: RogerFoster Description: Booklet Back Cover
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Comments and Reviews


Lee Wrecker 24th Jun 2019		The Tamla label preceded Motown but Motown later became its parent label which was then sold to MCA (1988) and later PolyGram (1993) then they were all scooped up by Universal in 1999. So Universal is the owner and parent of all these labels now and can choose which label to use on their products. Here they've chosen the Tamla imprint on the actual CD so that's what the label should be. There is also perhaps a case for it to be listed as Tamla/Motown/Universal but it doesn't change the fact that the labels are the same and the cat#s and barcodes are also the same. Local releases of international CDs do not exist on this site otherwise everything made in a particular country for that market would be listed as from that country but this is not the case. It perhaps should be that way but it is not. Here the criteria for an international release are matching cat#, barcode and label and this is such a case. In my view these CDs need to merged and classified as international. Also, that the three of us can't agree on how to list this after collectively entering thousands of CDs is testimony to the fact that the processes we're using are not clear enough or fit for purpose. All the MODS and ADMINS that pushed for this system of entry have either back flipped, disappeared or just completely avoid the issue. It infuriates me that this part of the site has been left to go to rack and ruin by the very people that pushed for this system of entry and they have left the rest of us beating about the bush with the wrong of the stick. Three years ago I entered the Australian version of this CD. What's the difference in this case?



RogerFoster 24th Jun 2019		Yes PhilMH, as you suspected the spine has 00602577584015, just like the scan you posted on the US release. Maybe this is really just a "local" version of an "international" release. And there are parallels ..... It occurred to me yesterday, as I was entering this, that with US 7" singles it wasn't at all unusual in the '60s for them to have subtly different label designs depending upon which pressing plant was producing the discs, and in some instances they were pressing from different masters!! As an example, with The Complete Motown Singles CD Collections (notably TCMS5) there are instances of different mixes of recordings being released depending on the pressing plant. One such example is with "My Girl Has Gone" by The Miracles and listening to TCMS5 the versions that were on sale in different parts of The USA are clearly different … however on 45Cat Tamla 54123 is just shown as one release.



PhilMH 24th Jun 2019		This is the first time that I've seen a US Universal B.... catalogue number on a non-US/Canada disc; however this one shows the number 00602577584015 on the disc circumference, and that's the format of recent international US releases, and I suspect this is the number that appears on the spine (Roger?). I made the label on the US copy Motown, because that's the current operating label, and the one that appears on the spine, the back insert, and the back page of the booklet, and I consider Tamla to be a "replica" label, replicating what the label would have been if the album had been issued in 1972, just as T316L supposedly would have been the 1972 LP catalogue number, but I could live with Tamla being added as a second label.



Lee Wrecker 23rd Jun 2019		... and regardless of how the labels are listed they are also the same and both should be Tamla rather than what appears on this issue. So same label, cat# and barcode is not enough to make this international. What hope is there of anyone knowing how to list CDs properly. I wish I'd never seen the guidelines and just did what I liked like everyone else. I'm just glad I don't buy CDs anymore and I'm buggering off to vinyl albums land as soon as I finish this time wasting and worthless comment.



RogerFoster 23rd Jun 2019		This has exactly the same Catalogue Number and Barcode as the US version already entered, the only notable differences being the legal blurb on the bottom of the CD Disc, and the absence of the FBI Anti-Piracy warning on the back cover. I had intended to mention in the notes the fact that there is a 12 page booklet containing a four page essay by David Ritz (the author of "Divided Soul, The Life Of Marvin Gaye" and co-composer of "Sexual Healing") and track credits etc. Maybe some kind moderator will add that to the notes? PhilMH has mentioned as a comment on the US version that he has doubts as to whether all of these tracks were ever really going to be issued as a US "You're The Man" LP. He isn't the only one!!

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Linked Releases

Japan - Universal - 2019

USA - Motown - 2019