I can't quote examples while I'm travelling and away from my collection, but I have seen French distribution codes, German label codes, and a variety of international rights societies on Australian and US-manufactured discs. Take your pick of record company laziness, or their not knowing what those details mean, or both! That's my tuppence worth on a train from York to Birmingham (actually, £3 worth, because Cross Country, like Virgin Trains, doesn't have FREE wifi - try to travel with London Midland if you can).
@Lee Wrecker.So there is,apologies Lee,i've never noticed them before,you learn something new on this site every day (at least i do;).I can't explain the presence of European retail price codes on Australian CD's?(does anyone know?),especially ones that were printed/made in Aus,as i can't see why they would have to pay a European distributor?unless they were also aimed at the European market?,but that doesn't make sense,as most reasonably big bands would have a European/UK release along with a US one,so the only thing i can think of is that they have been very lazy with the artwork,and just not blanked out the codes in the barcode boxes.We really could do with someone who has worked in the CD trade,specifically in distribution,ideally,that can put us straight.Hopefully someone may join the site soon,until then,we'll just muddle through,and guess as best as we can;)
Hi gregs78s my first guess was this and it's printed in Australia and has the French price code. First guess! There's plenty of them around I just never knew what the F: PM ##### was before. So a combination of lazy artwork techniques are at play. Once again though it makes for muddy water for us to wade through.
Here's a copy of Lou Reed's Transformer and a copy of a Punk compilation. Found these in 10 mins in my collection so they do exist. Had a further dig through about 2/3 of my collection and found over 10 more the same. There are of course many more like the Iggy one that you and I referenced which have local discs in European or USA printed packaging. Oh, the joy!
@Lee Wrecker.Hi Lee,I'm not sure that's entirely correct,at least,it's been my experience that if these retail price codes are present,it's an indicator that the CD was distributed/on sale in Europe,and if they do appear worldwide/elsewhere,it's probably because the original European artwork has been used/copied,instead of re-printing one for the specific country,(i could be wrong of course,if you find one where that wasn't the case,then i'd certainly willing to have a re-think;).The Iggy Pop album you've cited is a case in point,as has often happened with Australian releases,either the stock European or US artwork was used,so,therefore,as in this case,you can end up with European retail price codes on an Australian release.I suppose it was easier that way,and cheaper,saving the extra cost of a reprint,but it makes it more confusing for us unfortunately:(
Hey gregs78s, the French retail price code, like the UK specific cat# (or is that a price code as well) appears all over the world. This Australian Iggy Pop album has the French price code for some unknown reason. The most likely reason would be laziness in the art department and not airbrushing out irrelevant details when piecing the artwork together for a local copy.
It is often the case that locally made Australian editions of CDs (or LPs for that matter) carry errant information tracing back to the UK, European and USA original releases. Check out this Eric Clapton album that cops all the information from the USA original and carries no references to Australia at all except matrix numbers. Gearing up for the madness of the CD era no doubt.
All of this is just useless extra information and I don't know anything about whether or not this is a UK only or European release.
Well, it was issued in UK since this is UK label and sold in some other places.
I think place issues and place distributed is often considered the same here.
I don't know, I'm looking at some flags added here and many CDs are made international just because the CD was sold in stores under "local", not import prices.
I don't order CDs, every single CD I own was purchased here in USA. Should every CD I have that is not US issue be made into international release?
I'm just asking. I think it's time to define flags as either places where CD was actually issued or places where it was actually sold.
I like the flags because they tell me what albums might be found here in Buffalo, NY and which ones are probably not available here in local stores, used or new.
Good catch
Label logo says Virgin America which is correct label
We've talked about Virgin Records America which is always written in the fine print and it's not a label on its own.
This is UK label and catalog numbers should either begin with VUS or have VUS as part of the number.
Again, not to be confused, this is NOT Virgin Records America.
By the way, place issued here should be UK, not Europe
Ha ha, here's one that has what we might consider the Virgin America logo. The usual Virgin logo with "AMERICA" written below it. So this one is correct, depending how much weight you give to the word "America" changing label name at all. Virgin Records had an office in Australia as well but that doesn't mean everything that has "Virgin Records Australia" on it is on a different label. Or does it?