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Artist:Rodney Crowell
Title:Fate's Right Hand
Label:  Epic / DMZ
Country:USA
Date:2003
Catalogue:EK 89082
Barcode:696998908222
Format:CD Album
Collection:  I Own It     I Want It 
Community: 1 Owns
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
01Rodney CrowellStill Learning How To FlyRodney CrowellRate
02Rodney CrowellFate's Right HandRodney Crowell10.0  Rate
03Rodney CrowellEarthboundRodney CrowellRate
04Rodney CrowellTime To Go InwardRodney CrowellRate
05Rodney CrowellThe Man In MeRodney CrowellRate
06Rodney CrowellRidin' Out The StormRodney CrowellRate
07Rodney CrowellPreachin' To The ChoirRodney CrowellRate
08Rodney CrowellIt's A Different World NowRodney CrowellRate
09Rodney CrowellCome On Funny Feelin'Rodney CrowellRate
10Rodney CrowellAdam's SongRodney CrowellRate
11Rodney CrowellThis Too Will PassRodney CrowellRate


Notes

Produced by Rodney Crowell and Pete Coleman

2 Panel Digipak with 4 panel insert
℗ © 2003 Sony Music Entertainment Inc. and DMZ Records
Manufactured by Epic. A Division of Sony Music

An alternate version exists with different barcode: 886974928225

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Beggars Road
5th Sep 2017
 @Magic Marmalade: Clicked 'I Own It' and posted a few comments for you double M.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
5th Sep 2017
 New entry created, and each entry has a an allusion to the other in notes.

(I'll also link it below)

...So if you want to go ahead and "own" that one BR.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
5th Sep 2017
 I'm not quoting anyone BR, just stating logic, and for a practical reason too...

... If we have two digipak CDs from the same country, released at the same time, but with no 'apparent' substantive difference, then why do they have two different barcodes?

I can't think of (or imagine) why any producer of any product would release two identical products bearing two (or more) different codes - the information contained in the barcode (although, admittedly, I'm no expert) tells you what the product is, and for what market.

Although the potential variations on this many digits allows enough scope for millions of diffferently distinguished products, if this practice was carried through to all items bearing barcodes, then they'd very quickly burn through all the potentai variations that this barcode system allows... it's not very efficient, it's time consuming, and costs money to do.

(not to mention needlessly confusing, defeating the object of having a code that identifies the product, and any individual copies of that particular product)

So, why there may not, as yet, be any apparent distinction in the substance of the two copies here, there must be something different, that this barcode variation is significant of... either something on the disc (music, data, video, etc.), the packaging, made for a different market, or something, at least, that explains it. At a stretch, it could be that the initial release was immediately cancelled, or aborted, and almost as immediatley reinstated, but had, for commercial barcode reasons, had to have a new code applied.

The only thingn which will tell you if the music on disc is different is the matrix on the inner ring, so that would be the first port of call, once the packaging has been looked at.

Failing this, I'd say the most likely reason is that one was made at the same place, for another country / region / zone / market. (export).

In any event, it's different.

The practical reasons, as far as this site is concerned, centres around the fact that when going to search for a copy that someone may have in hand, they may first type in the artist, and get their complete listings, or catalogue number, and see a copy that generally matches that, except the barcode... and so, they will enter it again, thinking there's is not this issue (each page can only support one barcode in the barcode field.... and if they do re-enter it, you then have two pages with the same "variation" on it - one leading, one buried in another entry, under a different barcode... this way, duplicates lie.

So I think there is a difference, or a reason for that difference, which bears investigation, and the reason established... and this should be reflected here in having two separate entries, which people can readily identify.

(Aren't CDs fun?!!! you get one "fact" established, then something comes along that seems to say: "What d'yer make of that then?!!!")

I'll make the new entry a little later, and move your images over, but won't be bale to shift your "own" over, as it'll take everyone's over too.
 

 
Beggars Road
5th Sep 2017
 @Magic Marmalade: "But where a CD has a barcode, and another comes along with a different barcode, they should be entered separately, as there is some substantive change or alteration in the product, which the barcode change is significant of." - What is the source of your quote, please?

@Magic Marmalade: Yes, I'd prefer that you make the entry and move the images - thank you very much.

@robozuc: My copy of this CD is no 'special edition'.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
4th Sep 2017
 Yours is a different issue Beggars Road - different product - this is why it has a different barcode.

It will need to be made a separate entry, which, if you want to do, I'll shift your images over one it's created, or I could make the entry and move the images if you'd prefer.

Recap:

A CD with no barcode can appear on the same page as one with, provided all other details are the same (it's the same issue, but with additional information applied, for reasons of compliance with existing commercial practices external to the record company's cataloguing, issuing system).... But where a CD has a barcode, and another comes along with a different barcode, they should be entered separately, as there is some substantive change or alteration in the product, which the barcode change is significant of.
 

 
robozuc
4th Sep 2017
 Probably here we have two different versions of the same CD:
barcode 696998908222 normal cd edition
barcode 886974928225 enhanced cd with video material playable on PC

My question is, given the two different barcodes, Enhanced CD can be considered a Special Edition?

Obviously, they are two different products and need two separate entries.
 

 
Beggars Road
4th Sep 2017
 To all American workers - enjoy your Labor Day!
 

 
Beggars Road
4th Sep 2017
 @Alenko: Nope - I'm good - thanx for caring though!
 

 
Alenko
4th Sep 2017
 Well, maybe it's time to get different mentor
 

 
Beggars Road
4th Sep 2017
 @Alenko: Good to see your comment/opinion - again.

FYI: Before I did it this way I consulted my mentor Moderator - would you like to take it up with him?
 

 
Alenko
4th Sep 2017
 Different barcode means different issue.

If the info on the release you hold in your hands doesn't match info added to the release here, that probably means that you have different issue and that you should add it as separate release.
 

 
Beggars Road
4th Sep 2017
 Added images of identical entry w/ diff. UPC/barcode.

Submitted 'Make Correction' to add diff barcode to Notes.
 


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