Latest Updates - Nick Cave And The Bad Seeds

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Comment by Lee Wrecker:

Hello Phil, The 1992 Bad Seeds release of Henry's Dream has Liberation on the spine. That's the only one in my collection with any label reference on the spine the others are all void like this one. I see this in the same way I see modern vinyl reissues such as those by Rhino for example. Where the cat# is a Rhino cat# but the label may be Elektra, Atlantic, Argo and a facsimile of that label is used to produce the product.
All that aside the other site (you know who) lists at least some these as Liberation - Mute which to my mind is possibly the best fit.

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Comment by PhilMH:

The easiest bit first: consulting my Platterlogs gives me 10 September 1990 for L/C/D 30443 (there were in fact six Cave releases via Festival between August and early October), and 3 August 1992 for L/C/D 19633, so the date on this one needs to be corrected.

As for the labels, I would think Mute as the primary label, as that was the originating label in the UK, and Liberation as secondary - it would have helped if Festival had specified the label(s) on the spine, as most companies do!

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Comment by Lee Wrecker:

Hi Magic, these Cartel (you know 4AD, Mute, Beggars Banquet etc) produced global independent releases are tricky. The UK release of this has the usual Mute cat# pattern CD STUMM 28 this release uses a, now try to stay with me, typical Festival Records cat# D19633. In Australia Festival for most of 90's were the distributor Liberation and Mushroom records. Michael Gudinski was a founder of both labels and because of that connection the roster of artists sometimes appeared on both labels depending on when products were released then in 1999 Mushroom engulfed Liberation before amalgamating with Festival to form Festival Mushroom Records.
Are you still with me? My theory is that the Festival Records cat# D19633 was designated to the Liberation Label for distribution in Australia. Therefore the label should be Liberation as it is the label producing the product and putting it in the market. It is listed on the other site both ways. As Liberation - Mute for D 30443 for the 1990 release and the reverse for this D19633 1992 release.
It's messy but we can change the date of release to Aug 1992 on the strength of the links provided. The global independents of the Cartel are always difficult as they were really close to being facsimile labels before that became all the rage. I'll see if anyone chimes in with some better grasp of how to approach this and let it lie for while.

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Comment by Magic Marmalade:

Difficult on the face of it as mute has the patent, but liberation has the copyright.

But looking at the mute discography, the cat numbering sequence appears consistent in pattern and style with this, so I think it looks right as is.

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Comment by Lee Wrecker:

Should the label be Mute - Liberation or Liberation - Mute? Or just Liberation or Mute? Any ideas?

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Comment by Lee Wrecker:

I have been going through the Bad Seeds Australian CDs and this one has me a bit stumped. Is the primary label Mushroom, Liberation or Mute? All three logos are prominent on the packaging. The rest of the 90s Bad Seeds Australian catalogue is usually on Liberation - Mute but this one is different. What do people think? ...and I don't mean in general.

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Comment by Lee Wrecker:

Hey leonard, Very nice work on those scans and by the way this was the Australian release as well as the EU issue.