Track 2 recorded live @ Leeds University, Feb 14, 1970.
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gregs45s SUBS 31st Aug 2013
| | Hi,i've just bought one of these from the local record fair today,and it says"made in U.K"around the centre of the disc. |
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sladesounds 13th Dec 2012
| | Guys look here.
I have added the link to the notes - it is from the "Official" Who web site discography - only refers to a UK issue. |
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Dr Doom SUBS 13th Dec 2012
| | You may have noticed we've gotten rid of the chart position box.
Chart positions should now be made as comments or added to notes.
We're no longer entering them as database items as eventually the 'offic*al ch*rt' people will come and chase us and ask for a big fat cheque.
It would be hard for them to ask all of our members to make comments though.
(I'll delete this post at a later date) |
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leonard 13th Dec 2012
| | Peace, bro. |
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Billy Two 13th Dec 2012
| | Not sure we're on the same track here, Leonard ? It's not about the act, but about the item. To not have a UK charted release under UK would be to imply it's an import, which may be the case in some instances but certainly wouldn't be an all over rule.
I do understand that this leads to the same item being entered multiple times under different countries, but I've never seen that as a problem - more a case of getting things exact.
Aaaanyhow - just realised that I've been sucked into "this" argument again, when I promised myself never again a year ago. I'm totally happy with whatever any one agrees on this. I don't want no trouble, man. |
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leonard 13th Dec 2012
| | Chart entry isn't enough. I know a lot of acts that charted in a lot of countries. I know UK acts that only charted abroad etc. etc. |
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Billy Two 13th Dec 2012
| | I think we also need to look at whether a release entered a country's chart. If this entered the UK chart, then surely there'd be a valid case for it being entered as UK ?
(ps. I've no idea whether it did or not !!) |
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thatsunday 13th Dec 2012
| | I personally would have entered it as UK too (assuming it was done at PDO Blackburn).
- Blackburn did mostly local releases
- the sticker links it with an ad campaign which looks UK only (but any country could add a local sticker to finished product so this indication is weak..).
The BIEM / STEMRA logos indicate central right licensing. Polygram/Universal has SACEM as a partner nowadays. Saves them money.
Polydor (UK) is the repertoire owner, so it gets a credit regardless of country of release.
I would say: in doubt go for Europe
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sladesounds 13th Dec 2012
| | Went down the UK rate given the back sleeve and disc namechecks Polydor (UK) three times and it was 5am when I input it (following a sleepless night). UK just kinda jumped out at me but as you say Europe looks in hindsight an option.
I leave it as it is for the time being so that other Mods can have a look and a chat about it too and then if majority agree I will change it over.
Comments guys?
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thatsunday 13th Dec 2012
| | The pressing looks like an UK one, made by PDO in Blackburn. Unfortunately the inner ring text isn't readable, but from the style it should be an UK pressing. I have compared it with another CD from 1996 done at PDO Blackburn.
Polygram had three CD plants in Europe in the 90s (Langenhagen near Hannover, Louviers in France and Blackburn) with central warehousing for Europe in Langenhagen (plus local warehouses all over Europe).
These three were mainly assigned to international releases (Langenhagen), local UK (Blackburn) and local France (Louviers). To make things complicated orders were often off loaded to one of the other Polygram plants, depending on demand and capacity planning.
Some orders were placed at third party suppliers. The most extreme example was Elton John's Candle in the Wind which was manufactured at more then 10 factories due to demand.
Local Polygram companies had to use the three plants mentioned, but inofficially they used local plants from time to time to save money and have shorter leadtimes.
As you know Polygram became Universal, with only one main plant (EDC in Langenhagen) left. A little bit less complicated, but the problem with assigning the right country remains..
I worked for more than 20 years at Polygram and Universal in Langenhagen but I'm lost sometimes too when it comes to country of release...
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leonard 13th Dec 2012
| | Let's start the discussion right away: why is this UK and not Europe? Rights organizations BIEM / STEMRA, probably manufactured in the Netherlands... |
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