CD Singles - The Living End - Second Solution - Rapido - Australia

CD Single

Artist:	The Living End
Label:	Rapido
Country:	Australia
Catalogue:	RAP 027
Barcode:	9398603196123
Date:	15 Sep 1997
Format:	CD Single
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	4 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Producer	Rating
01	The Living End	Second Solution	Cheney		Rate
02	The Living End	Prisoner Of Society	Cheney		Rate
03	The Living End	Prisoner On The Inside			Rate
04	The Living End	Misspent Youth (Live)	Cheney		Rate
05	The Living End	Strange (Live)	Cheney		Rate

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Tracks 4 & 5 recorded on Triple J's "Live At The Wireless" 1997.

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Lee Wrecker 26th Feb 2016		Pomegranate, here is the source of my information from a forum post by sladesounds in 2013. @ https://www.45worlds.com/45worlds/45w_forum_topic_view.php?t=90050 "What is a CD Single - A CD World users (rough) guide. To many a CD Single is obvious - the equivalent of a 7" single, 7" EP or a 12" single or 12" Maxi single. However with record labels being generous and making full use of the CD format we have CDs being issued which could be called Mini Albums (or the equivalent). This site, being the sister site of 45Cat is about CD singles, not CD albums or CD mini albums. So how to define a CD, using the UK Chart Company's guidelines, to qualify in the UK as a single: The CD (Single) must contain the featured track or a version/remix of it. The CD (Single) must meet the minimum dealer price requirement. The CD (Single) must have no more than 4 different tracks, although each song may appear in any number of different versions. The CD (Single) maximum running time is 25 minutes (if more than one different song is featured), or 40 minutes (if one song is featured in multiple versions/mixes). So the important bits that make a CD qualify as a CD Single. No more than 4 different tracks (not counting any remixes of the same song). No more than 25 minutes in playing time (for up to 4 different tracks) or upto 40 minutes if the CD contains remix versions. So (besides selling a few copies) a CD with tracks listing: 1. Song A 2. Song B 3. Song C 4. Song D is good for inclusion in the UK Charts; whereas a CD with the track listing: 1. Song A 2. Song B 3. Song C 4. Song D 5. Song E is not. A CD with track listing: 1. Song A 2. Song B 3. Song C 4. Song D 5. Song A (remix) is classed as valid for although it has 5 tracks, the remix track does not count for UK Chart purposes. The guidelines outlined above are based on the UK charts; there are always going to be exceptions to the rule such as do we include the running time of any video tracks on the disc? What about DVD singles? A general rule that can be applied is that if a CD charts in the singles chart of a country, regardless of the number of tracks on the disc, then it must be a CD Single (at least as far as that country is concerned). Another general rule is if an artist/band releases a CD and calls it a CD Single or the record label promotes the CD as a CD Single then, in theory, it must be a CD Single regardless of the number of tracks or the running time. There will be many discs that fall outside of the basic guidelines/rules and these can be discussed in the forums. If you have any disc that you can't make your mind up about then ask in the forums and see what the consensus is, let the masses decide." Clear as mud?? This is where my weird notions came from after I queried an entry and I thought when I'd done most of my stuff I'd come back and correct these only to find these rules don't apply. Or rather they apply when certain people want them to apply which is not great for consistency.



Lee Wrecker 26th Feb 2016		Well, Pomegranate that is the answer I got from the Mods when I queried why the Captain Beefheart A&M singles CD @ https://www.45worlds.com/cdalbum/cd/blimpcd902 was listed as an album. I also assumed up to 8 songs were good according to the guide but the experience of listing my 5 song Beefheart single only to find it was already listed (and still is) as an album made think other factors were at play. The Beefheart CD is listed everywhere else as a single and reasoning for the decision basically came down to the fact it had more than 4 songs. I personally listed the Beefheart CD as a single @ https://www.45worlds.com/cdsingle/cd/blimpcd902 but both entries are still live. I suppose this why I have some confusion about the criteria in operation.



Pomegranate 26th Feb 2016		Frankly, I can't see anything about more than 4 songs in the CD singles guide. However, the guide does say, "You can enter up to 8 tracks when adding a CD Single."



Pomegranate 26th Feb 2016		Personally I would trust ARIA's judgment.



Lee Wrecker 26th Feb 2016		Thanks Pomegranate for backing up my initial judgement but the rules are "no more than 4 songs" and while this is obviously a single and was released as single it doesn't fit the sites' criteria by being one song too long. CD EPs all have to be listed as albums if they have more than 4 songs but they were released as EPs. This band's first release the Hellbound EP being a case in point. I listed it here but fear I may be wrong given the criteria in play on this part of the site.



Pomegranate 26th Feb 2016		A CD single according to ARIA.



Lee Wrecker 26th Feb 2016		Too many songs for a single?? Should I re-enter in the CD albums section? PM me if you need me to make a new entry or do anything else. Cheers, Lee.

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