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Artist:	Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik
Title:	Water Music Suite - Music For The Royal Fireworks
Format:	Vinyl Album
Label:	Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft
Country:	Germany
Date:	1963
Catalogue:	138 864 SLPM
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	1 Owns
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Performers
Composer	George Frideric Handel
Orchestra / Ensemble	Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
Conductor	Rafael Kubelik

Track

Artist

Title

Composer

Rating

SIDE 1 - Water Music Suite

01

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

1. Satz: Ouverture

Handel

02

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

2. Satz: Adagio E Staccato

Handel

03

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

3. Satz: (Allegro)

Handel

04

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

4. Satz: Air

Handel

05

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

5. Satz: (Allegretto)

Handel

SIDE 2 - Music For The Royal Fireworks

06

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

1. Satz: Ouverture

Handel

07

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

2. Satz: Bourree

Handel

08

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

3. Satz: La Paix: Largo Alla Siciliana

Handel

09

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

4. Satz: La Rejouissance: Allegro

Handel

10

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

5. Satz: Menuet I

Handel

11

Berliner Philharmoniker, Rafael Kubelik

6. Satz: Menuet II

Handel

Notes

Stereo Album.

Images

Number: 995086 THUMBNAIL Uploaded By: Magic Marmalade Description: Handel - Water music - Music For The Royal Fireworks - Front Cover	Number: 995087 Uploaded By: Magic Marmalade Description: Handel - Water music - Music For The Royal Fireworks - Back Cover	Number: 995089 Uploaded By: Magic Marmalade Description: Handel - Water music - Music For The Royal Fireworks - Label - Side 1	Number: 995090 Uploaded By: Magic Marmalade Description: Handel - Water music - Music For The Royal Fireworks - Label - Side 2
Number: 1461575 Uploaded By: PhilMH Description: Gramophone (UK) ad October 1963

Comments and Reviews


keebrev 30th Sep 2017		I suggest to look at the label; is it Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft it is DGG, and is it Deutsche Grammophon it's DG, issued after 1969. And yes of coarse, there will be doubles. I've got several DG records in DGG covers, but is it a problem? The country is normally Germany, and certainly after 1980 ( when Philips took over he last shares of Siemens) it became International. Don't make it too difficult, there are no can of worms, only challenges :) By the way: the album no. is SLPM 138 864, or 138 864 SLPM, not only the number. S= stereo, L= company => Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft, P= pvc record M= 12" record



keebrev 30th Sep 2017		This record is recorded in march 1963 and is presumably issued the same year, so it would be the Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft, not Deutsche Grammophon who released this record. Deutsche Grammophon was established after the merge with Philips (PPI)at the end of 1971 -begin 1972 ... into Polygram. So DGG wasn't a Gesellschaft mit beschanker Haftung any more and was a part of Polydor International :) Only in the home country DGG was still be used... according to "The State of the Art... 100 years of Deutsche Grammophon. For export issues they used DG. The worm in this can is the DG logo without the tulips in the rim, it was introduced end '60, for new records. All old records kept their original six digital cat # numbers and in January 1970 the new seven digit cat# (25xx xxx and 27xx xxx for DG ) was introduced. Some older records were in the seventies reissued with the new rim label and their origin six digital cat#.



Magic Marmalade 29th Sep 2017		I think there is a growing consensus around that idea, and it may be being considered, but we, being but humble mods, are not party to such knowledge... ...We are just the stormtroopers in this situation - Dr D. and OC are the Emperor and Darth Vader respectively - they know where the batteries are kept for the death star, and choose the direction it goes in.



PhilMH 29th Sep 2017		OK, not International then, but another argument in favour of multiple country flags, where any flagged country is easily searchable. I'm sure it could be done (says a man with absolutely zero programming expertise!).



Magic Marmalade 29th Sep 2017		Worms!...worms!...everywhere a can of worms! (There's worms all over the show here) ...I am torn between agreeing with you, and not. You're logic is sound, but German pressings are the DGs that are sought after (when, in fact they are sought after - and mostly then sporting the "Red Stereo" box on the front cover), so I think if anyone interested in such issues were to go a-searching for DGs, they'd specify German in the search, which, if we made international, might cause them to be overlooked: "These are not the tulips you're looking for" (my Jedi search engine might say) ...and worse yet, someone having done so, might think: "Oh, they don't have the German one, so I'll add it!"; Then we have a duplicate entry, with one in disguise. Tarnations to international trade arrangements and progressive free-market shenan-agains, I say.... they made a real bum festival of the whole thing, looking to sell their wares to all and sundry with no thought for poor catters such as we, who, coming later, have to make sense of the whole thing! (Sorry about the verbosity here, I'm reading The Hobbit at the moment, and I tend to pick up patterns of speech and language styles from whatever I happen to be reading at the time, and it seeps into my everyday usage)



PhilMH 29th Sep 2017		Uploaded a screen grab of the Gramophone ad (which technically would belong to the UK issue, if it were to be entered here). Note the reference at the bottom of the ad to US and Canada distribution by MGM Records; I believe that MGM were usually importing German DG pressings at this time (as did Decca before them, and Polydor afterwards), and Australia got a lot of import pressings in the 70's and 80's (I have a couple myself), so there is probably a case for making much of DG's German product International. Can of worms, anyone?



PhilMH 29th Sep 2017		UK release of this was in October 1963, says an ad in that month's Gramophone, so presumably German release was about then too.

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