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Classical Vinyl Album

Artist:Sir Thomas Beecham And The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
Title:Scheherazade
Format:Vinyl Album
Label:  His Master's Voice
Country:UK
Date:1959
Catalogue:ASD 251
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Community: 3 Own
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Performers
ComposerNikolai Rimsky-Korsakov
Orchestra / EnsembleRoyal Philharmonic Orchestra
ConductorThomas Beecham
SoloistSteven Staryk


TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
SIDE 1
01Sir Thomas Beecham And The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra 1st Movement: The Sea And Sinbad's ShipNikolai Rimsky-KorsakovRate
02Sir Thomas Beecham And The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra2nd Movement: The Story Of The Kalender PrinceNikolai Rimsky-KorsakovRate
SIDE 2
03Sir Thomas Beecham And The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra 3rd Movement: The Young Prince And The Young PrincessNikolai Rimsky-KorsakovRate
04Sir Thomas Beecham And The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra4th Movement: The Festival Of Bagdad; The Sea; The Ship Goes To Pieces On A Rock Surmounted By A Bronze WarriorNikolai Rimsky-KorsakovRate


Notes

Stereo Album.

Steven Staryk: Solo Violin

First Press: White/Gold Rim HMV Label

Thereafter: Red Labels.

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Comments and Reviews
 
Magic Marmalade
24th Apr 2018
 Indeed, I am learning as I go :)

Difficult to get fixed details on classical items online, nobody willing to share info that much, so I'm drawing ever tighter rings around dates for labels etc.

(Pin the tail on the Donkey? - Ouch!!! :)
 

 
Henry Bell
24th Apr 2018
 HMV White/Gold labels were used from 1958 right up to (early) 1964. The last LP to appear was ASD 575. From ASD 576 on the series was on the Red label.
 

 
PhilMH
11th Mar 2018
 Correction - this was reviewed in the October 1958 issue, the search facility in Gramophone's digital archive can be a bit temperamental!
 

 
PhilMH
11th Mar 2018
 Some reviews of other records in Gramophone from November 1958 onwards have this as an October 1958 release, it doesn't appear to have been reviewed itself though.
 

 
hifinut
11th Mar 2018
 This was one of the first stereo records I bought. I think it was in 1959.

I have just played this on my present system and the stereo imaging ( EMI crossed ribbon mikes very simple arrangement I assume! ) is superb!!

The matrix numbers on my copy are Side 1 2YEA 5-7 Side 2 2YEA 6-8

Seems odd? I am not familiar with details of pressing technology; maybe they had to change a "plate"? part way through the run.

When I first started work, the Company had an Arts and Science Club and one of the first meetings ( In Liverpool ) I attended was a demonstration of EMI 's Stereosonic Sound. This product was released in 1956 I believe with content on 7.5 inches / sec two track magnetic tape.

This leads me to suspect that ASD251 was recorded that early.

Two EMI scientists came along with an impressive radiogram style cabinet and matching speaker And demonstrated a series of excerts from the stereo repertoire. It was VERY impressive.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
20th Apr 2017
 Having these two discs in hand allows me to draw lots of conclusions about this release, by comparing the facts that are known, with what's in front of me...

...Stereo was introduced in 1958, with the white / gold labels in the case of HMV, and the blue /silver Columbias, but these must have been "in print" for only the very briefest of times, before both labels went red.

While I don't yet have a corresponding Columbia, I do have a couple of HMVs of other titles released in 58 /59 which came in the triple flip-backs, and with still very early matrix and plate numbers. These early red ones, have the "rough textured" labels, although to all appearance, are identical to what I've added to this entry, which has later "smooth" labels, of that design.

Now, my white / golds of this have matrix/plate numbers:

2YEA 5 - 7
2YEA 5 - 7

... and my reds have:

2YEA 5 -13G
2YEA 5 - 17

... and seeing as how this was released in 1959 (thanks Phil), this would seem to have barely been out before the switch to reds (sometime around the end of 1959, to very early 60 I'd guess)...

...Which means that this must have shifted huge quantities in a very short period of time, for my white / golds to have gotten to plates 7 (each side) in the time available before the switch to red.

That there would be some kind of intermediary Rough reds between the white / golds and the smooth reds I have, which have moved on by 6, and 10 plates respectively (albeit, there may be even later plates for my white / golds, and earlier plates for my reds), and that those rough reds only appeared, I'd deduce, almost, if not more briefly than even the white /golds, I'd say there must be plenty of these about, in various forms.

So in terms of the rarity of the white /golds... they might have been only the briefest window where this was available with these labels, this must be offset by the fact that in that time they sold shed-loads of them... so the fact of a copy having white /golds alone, may not cut the mustard for audiophiles seeking an assurance of the earliest possible press...

... in this title's case, the white /gold would only serve as a starting point, then go to the matrices (little Godfather there for you :) and seek an earlier plate number.

But that said, I've played both of my copies through now, and I would confidently say that there is precisely zero difference in vinyl grade / quality, or sound quality, that I can hear.. The reds are as good as the golds.

(same weight, thickness, same apparent consistency of vinyl, same fineness of cut).

So you could be confident in the quality of any of the reds if you wanted to buy those (for less, too! :) instead.
 

 
Magic Marmalade
12th Apr 2017
 1st labels added.
 

 
PhilMH
12th Apr 2017
 Added year 1959, as this was included in an E.M.I. ad in the August 1959 issue of GRAMOPHONE, and then in the following issue included in a list of albums issued up to the beginning of September (seems to be a cumulative list for the year).
 

 
Magic Marmalade
11th Apr 2017
 I found an un-sleeved white/gold of this yesterday!!!

...I'll be adding the scans soon, and I'll be able to do a taste test between discs with different labels, and report on any difference in sound quality etc.

(Not often a chance comes along to have two varieties to hand)

((And guess which disc shall be occupying the sleeve from now on :))
 


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