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Topic: My Bucket List of 78's

  29th May 2023, 4:46 PM
mister_tmg

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Mike Wilson1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
danceband91 wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
If you were doing what I am trying to do what "Charts" would you use ? Addendum: Some of the sheet music had the individual artists on.....I have the same piece of sheet music, one with a Gracie Fields photograph and one with a Vera Lynn photo, same company.

I'm not sure I'd do anything different really - I don't know of any other UK charts that cover the period. I would probably focus on the Missing Charts book (trying to correct as many errors as possible), given it was actually based on record sales. I'd perhaps try and collect the B sides as well, since I'm not convinced the A sides have been correctly identified - e.g. the other side of Turner Layton's 'Safe In My Heart' is 'When You Wish Upon A Star', which I'd have thought would have been a much bigger hit. That would double the work however!

I don't know how much I trust the sheet music charts on the Pop Music History site, without knowing exactly how it was devised. There are some real oddities there, e.g. Carter & Evans having the only charted version of 'One Dozen Roses', despite recordings by e.g. Carroll Gibbons and Joe Loss. I'd certainly never heard of Carter & Evans, and I doubt many people at the time would have done, given it was their first record! And then under 'You're Mine' it states 'sheet music only available', despite there being recordings by Oscar Rabin and Charlie Kunz (and probably others). And that's just from a quick glance at 1942!

You may be onto something with the artists being specified on the sheet music itself. There were certainly many 'versions' of each piece of sheet music, with different artists on the covers (specifying 'as broadcast by', 'as recorded by' etc.). Perhaps whoever devised the Pop Music History site had access to data showing what different 'versions' were produced, and then chose from those the artists that had actually released a record.

Right, well this perhaps explains why Mike has been looking for the Carter and Evans record. But as you suggest, why did the site author choose their version of One Dozen Roses? Curiously, there's no way of contacting the webmaster.

Regarding You're Mine, perhaps those recordings hadn't been issued when the song was in the sheet music charts? Hence, "sheet music only" when it was a hit?

That is a good point about artists featured on the sheet music perhaps being the more popular renditions of the songs. Although there's no listing of what sheet music was available, is there? The British Library do hold a lot, but I don't know if they have multiple editions of the same song.

Personally, and especially given what I know about these errors, I'd rather stick to contemporary published charts.

If there is ever anything you can think of that I may be able to do for you please mention it....I looked for that errors list that I sent to the book publishers but I've not come across it yet

I will keep that in mind, thanks! You’re making me want to get those CLPGS books now.


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