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Topic: Billy Cotton "What Do We Care"

  16th Jun 2024, 1:08 PM
Mike Wilson1

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Do I understand that you have photographed all the titles in The Missing Charts book ?........I have a couple of enquiries.......No. 378....."There I Go" -Jay Wilbur....I have the featured vocalist as Bebe Daniels, certainly a female singer as I listen to it.......Also No. 386...."Dolores"........My recording is definitely Monte Rey singing......No. 439.....I'm totally confused......I think it might be worthwhile to compere information seeing as I have calculated 1827 individual entries and you are at 1840 I believe.......Also is your definitive listing the title as printed on the record label or as sung by the artists....I would like to compare information as I am sure that many of my stats will need correction and I would like to be as accurate as is possible
danceband91 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
danceband91 wrote:
For instance, the book credits Harry Roy's "Leicester Square Rag" on Decca F-9145 as re-entering the charts in November 1949, but it should actually be the new version he recorded on Parlophone F-2387 (with added vocal), which was released that month.
How do you know?
I suppose I don't know for certain, but it seems like a fairly safe assumption. There are a few similar cases where the book quotes a catalogue number corresponding to an earlier release by the same artist, rather than the record that had been just issued. I get the general impression that catalogue numbers were not part of the original data (or at least hadn't always been noted down), and instead were added in at a later stage.
Pridesale wrote:
Indeed a general query , did "re-entries" generally occur in this era ( somewhat assuming 20 new releases would always outsell a older disc that had already sold enough to chart)
You're right in thinking that re-entries were fairly uncommon. There were only around 50 or so records (out of 2326) that meaningfully re-entered the charts from 1940-52 (as opposed to just dropping out for a week). The reason for the re-entry is usually due to a new recording being released by another artist causing the song to regain popularity. This often happened in the early to mid forties, since it would often take three or four months for recordings by US artists to be released in the UK.

The strangest re-entry I've found is that of Nat Gonella's recording of "Juanita" on Columbia FB-2503. This initially charted for two weeks in Nov-40, but re-entered for a month in Mar-43. The reason for this appeared to be a new recording by Monte Rey on Columbia FB-2902 which charted in Mar-43, but it turns out that this version of "Juanita" is an entirely different song! Either it's a complete co-incidence or someone's got confused somewhere!


Edited by Mike Wilson1 on 16th Jun 2024, 1:40 PM

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