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| 29th Aug 2013, 8:00 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | gregs45s SUBS Member since Apr 2012 7504 Points | If an LP has lots of text on the back cover,would it not be an idea to have it split up into four quarter scans of 700x700,so you can read the text?,it might be a way of overcoming the need to increase image sizes(clogging the server) ,at the moment there's no way of seeing the tiny details . |
| 30th Aug 2013, 1:09 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | I might be tempted to do this if there's a lot of detailed text, but remember to include an image of the whole cover as well |
| 30th Aug 2013, 5:46 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 733 Points | JJ agreed, .....I've done that on another website, .....ogs, and I maintain it's a good idea, son, as many visitors will be looking to see who played what on an album, and with poor quality scans like this, by our own Doc......well......speechless. (I'm not blaming Doc, s**t just happens) The idea I thought was to impart information, and as a result of browsing 45worlds, I've seen things, and gained info. I might have known a bit about, but to actually see the item on a screen, is so rewarding, and I shall continue. The worst thing that can happen is a subbed image will be hidden, or deleted, so not so bad......  BTW JJ, look at your Bell-Tree forum replies/list.........mmmmmm. Edited by YankeeDisc on 30th Aug 2013, 5:50 PM |
| 30th Aug 2013, 6:12 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| gregs45s SUBS Member since Apr 2012 7504 Points | Not to harp-on,but can i throw one more thing out there?.Is it technically possible to have a "mouse click to zoom"option on the covers?. |
| 30th Aug 2013, 6:45 PM | #5 REPORT | |
 | Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator |
gregs78s wrote:
Not to harp-on,but can i throw one more thing out there?.Is it technically possible to have a "mouse click to zoom"option on the covers?.
Not sure what you mean. The image does get larger if you click on it. If you mean mega-detailed zoom I'm afraid the answer is no. If we had a website with 100 LPs on it then it would be fine but once we have 400,000 (Like 45cat) then the image hosting cost would be astronomical.  |
| 30th Aug 2013, 6:48 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator |
YankeeDisc wrote:
poor quality scans like this, by our own Doc......well......speechless. (I'm not blaming Doc, s**t just happens)
Yes that photo didn't turn out too well but I'm sure my technique will improve (as will other members) I'm also going to buy an A3 scanner and try ICE but until then an out of focus photo is better than nothing. All images are replacable when and if better comes come along.  |
| 30th Aug 2013, 11:37 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Nice one, YankeeDisc, have 'listed' it. Now we need a 'List' forum, and maybe also an artist 'Discuss' link..? |
| 30th Aug 2013, 11:46 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 733 Points |
Juke Jules wrote:
Nice one, YankeeDisc, have 'listed' it. Now we need a 'List' forum, and maybe also an artist 'Discuss' link..?
JJ...I have lots of ideas for lists to do, but I'm a bit of a Butterfly, (flitting all over the place). I would be assuaged if you could tackle the task, after all, it was you that first brought to my attention the Bell-Tree connections, so when I listened to that Marlena Shaw track for the first time in yonks, my "new ears" heard the subtle sound, and I reacted. |
| 31st Aug 2013, 12:03 AM | #9 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 733 Points |
Dr Doom wrote:
YankeeDisc wrote:
poor quality scans like this, by our own Doc......well......speechless. (I'm not blaming Doc, s**t just happens)
Yes that photo didn't turn out too well but I'm sure my technique will improve (as will other members) I'm also going to buy an A3 scanner and try ICE but until then an out of focus photo is better than nothing. All images are replacable when and if better comes come along. ...heaven forbid, Doc, I do hope that I haven't upset you, and no need to apologise about technique. If 'we' are to fully succeed, we'll have to try to give photographic evidence / scans of the highest quality, might I suggest we allow one or two, of say 600kb (1200x1200 pixels ?), but only one or two max per entry , with any others being 250kb. (If a sub. does not require a larger scan, then leave out that option, controlled by moderators,) If we members could use that size, if it's possible, (due to bandwidth?) tricky scans of rear of LP sleeves, and inner sleeves (think of BeatleJohn) could be undertaken, making this site a leader in pristine records of Vinyl history. Obviously, you're aware of Discogs, and all the bells and whistles on that site, which I use myself, but scans there are restricted to 600x600, and I would see an opportunity to fill a niche gap, plus keep a lot of members on 45worlds happy. Just shooting the breeze.......Mike. |
| 3rd Sep 2013, 9:38 AM | #10 REPORT | |
| Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator | |
| 3rd Sep 2013, 10:05 AM | #11 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator | Isn't it more likely that where we have covers with detailed text, someone will eventually come along and scan the thing properly, and thence problem solved? I'm currently posting photo images (slowly) of covers but was planning to reserve some scanning/stitching time for those covers that warrant it (because no matter how good the photo, a scan will always get the detail better, particularly small text etc). I assume others will do the same. Labels I'll be scanning. We can see how it goes I guess but I wouldn't think text/detail will be a problem in the long run (though it may be in the short term). Or maybe I am being optimistic.  Either way... I reckon we all have plenty to keep us occupied for the next decade or two!!!! Edited by nboldock on 3rd Sep 2013, 10:06 AM |
| 3rd Sep 2013, 3:19 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 733 Points | ...thank you for the replies. I've just thought of something. I am a member of Flickr, and post stuff on there from time to time. I believe membership is free, for the first 200 posted pictures. I link an example of an early Tamla Motown LP, posted as can be seen at a maximum 1024 x 1022 pixels, which is a fair size. It can also be viewed at smaller sizes. The 'author' (not me) decided on that maximum size, and scans can be set up so that nobody can download them. Currently I'm scanning dozens of LP labels at 24 bit color, 800 pixels, which produce a scan for edit at 3721 x 3706 pixel (2.34mb). By the time I've finished straightening scan alignment, cropping, etc., the scan will be 800 x 800 pixels (nominal) 250kb. I can post the same scan to Flickr, and it can be seen at 2400 x 2400.....for free, all I have to do is provide a link from any personal entry on this site, for any prospective browser to link to Flickr. Personally, I have no interest in copyright of any of my postings, because if I was a secret squirrel, I would never post anything. ...food for thought... ?Edited by YankeeDisc on 3rd Sep 2013, 3:23 PM |
| 3rd Sep 2013, 4:25 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | and scans can be set up so that nobody can download them... Just about not so , once the image is viewed on the computer you are using , it remains either on your hard drive or as a downloadable link - it does depend what software one is using to browse the internet. Anything on flickr ( just about unusable quickly for me as the main advantage of it was the written notes that could be viewed about the photo - when and where taken , subject matter and so forth ) were as important as the scan etc., I can download and post up here if I so wished. (legalities permitting) . I dont have the time to do 000s of LPs or anything else. One problem in both 45cat and more so LP world is cover scans with lots of writing , such as white on a dark colour is very difficult to read. I try to keep hold of my original scans etc at larger sizes if anyone wants one I can provide , bearing in mind they are only jpg and not some industrial sized cmyk or similar compressions. |
| 3rd Sep 2013, 4:52 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| YankeeDisc SUBS When in doubt.......accelerate........ Member since Dec 2010 733 Points | @Pridesale....as mentioned earlier I also keep my original scans at whatever size they started at, and only post the edited version, to where ever. I'm trying to figure out what you are driving at.....are you stating that one should never post anything, because of one's precious copyright? Personally I don't give a bat guanos' toss about my personal copyright, and anything I post anywhere, is because it may be of use to someone else, and that's all. I am not deeply suspicious of the web, providing one keeps one's head on straight.... ....and for your information, anyone on Flickr who subscribes to the god of copyright, and bangs on about it, normally on their almost always pathetic offerings, I bar from interaction with myself. |
| 4th Sep 2013, 8:49 AM | #15 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points | I was simply pointing out that its quite easy using normally available browsers to get a copy of photos posted on flickr and most other photohosting sites. I think linking to flickr is still possible as well , which is my preferred method If I post on message boards. The copyright comment was just to cover myself that I am not encouraging anyone to potentially leave themselves open to a civil claim, again anything I post on the net that I create is free for anyone else to use freely ( but not for sigificant commercial gain by re-sale). Edited by Pridesale on 4th Sep 2013, 8:58 AM |
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