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| 21st Sep 2013, 9:22 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | I see the 1960s Beatles LPs, which were released in both formats, have been paired up as single lines in the discography. I guess that's to better show the sequence of releases, but doesn't it conflict with the usual policy? Mono and stereo have different cat numbers, so they would normally be listed independently. |
| 21st Sep 2013, 9:31 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | This is different to the rule on 45cat, because the mono and stereo versions normally had different cat. no's although they had the same tracks |
| 21st Sep 2013, 10:19 PM | #3 REPORT | |
 | An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | I like the new layout for the Beatles discography with every lp listed twice next to each other the page was far too long. |
| 21st Sep 2013, 10:46 PM | #4 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | I think it tends to relegate the stereo copies by hiding them. They have different sets of images and comments etc. But I guess I'm more interested in knowing what the system now is. |
| 22nd Sep 2013, 8:22 AM | #5 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator | Both entries are still there of course; it merely makes the artist discography page a little less cluttered. Personally I am easy either way, though I think the new system is pretty good. |
| 22nd Sep 2013, 11:09 AM | #6 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points |
TopPopper wrote:
I think it tends to relegate the stereo copies by hiding them. They have different sets of images and comments etc. But I guess I'm more interested in knowing what the system now is.
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| 22nd Sep 2013, 11:33 AM | #7 REPORT | |
| TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | True, except that the listings aren't restricted to first pressings, or even early pressings. I would think a copy of Hard Days Night plucked at random, is more likely to be stereo. But in any case, it's difficult to prioritise one or the other - I think they are of equal status. |
| 22nd Sep 2013, 11:59 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | true there probably are more stereo copies over the last 50 years than mono |
| 22nd Sep 2013, 6:37 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator | We can make the Stereo release the "main" one if consensus suggests it should be... |
| 22nd Sep 2013, 7:18 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | Well it depends which way you look at it. The original early 60s LPs were more common in mono whereas the LPs from Sgt pepper onwards were becoming more common in stereo. However if your looking over every release from the 60s to now the stereo one is far more common as 1980s Beatles LPs in mono are rather rare |
| 23rd Sep 2013, 12:23 AM | #11 REPORT | |
 | Scratchy45 In Revived 45s, disinterred 33&1/3s, saved 78s Member since Jul 2011 782 Points | There seems to be a problem in the Beatles listings - "Beatles For Sale" appears as the Stereo version only if following Artist link for "The Beatles". The mono version - PMC1240 - does not appear in this list at all, but is present if searched for individually. |
| 23rd Sep 2013, 12:37 AM | #12 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | @Scratchy45 - Thanks, there was something odd there. Seems ok now |
| 8th Oct 2013, 1:12 PM | #13 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | Are we continuing the mono/stereo link with different artists ? |
| 8th Oct 2013, 1:39 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator | Yes, certainly at the moment. It seems to be going okay. I linked a couple of Dylan ones I think (or perhaps that was just a dream). |
| 8th Oct 2013, 1:44 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | i've just added a few new Move LPs and their first album needs a mono/stereo versions link. |
| 8th Oct 2013, 5:17 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator |
An6y66 wrote:
i've just added a few new Move LPs and their first album needs a mono/stereo versions link.
Which would be the main entry? |
| 8th Oct 2013, 7:01 PM | #17 REPORT | |
| An6y66 Member since Jul 2012 1817 Points | Hard to say. I don't think either one is particuloney more common. Probably stereo as the main one |
| 8th Oct 2013, 10:11 PM | #18 REPORT | |
 | bobzyeruncle Member since Jan 2013 28 Points | I would say mono, for the yellow & black label, as it outsold stereo until around 1968. The catalogue went stereo a year later with the introduction of the 'boxed' labels. Wouldn't be in favour of the listings being all on the same page. A link at the bottom as is seems perfect. No sense fixing what ain't broken.  |
| 13th Oct 2013, 11:08 AM | #19 REPORT | |
 | Dr Doom SUBS I wanna eat an artichoke once in a while Member since Feb 2008 25247 Points Administrator | Mono before Stereo makes more sense to me despite later 60s LPs being more common in Stereo. It fits in more with our instinct to display earlier things first. Mono and Stereo LPs may have been issued at the same time but Mono was around before Stereo, generally speaking. Stereo and Mono LPs will always have their own individual page entries in the database. We can tweak how they are displayed if needed once the world fills up a bit and we get a clearer picture of what works well.  Edited by Dr Doom on 13th Oct 2013, 11:10 AM |
| 13th Oct 2013, 9:19 PM | #20 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7198 Points Moderator | Done, with Mono as precedent on the artist page.  |
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