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| 9th Jan 2014, 10:43 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7167 Points Moderator | Can users please be aware when entering CD Singles that "Made In Austria" does not usually mean it is an Austrian release. Remember it is the country of release we are after, not manufacture (though feel free to add the latter to the Notes). Sony Group and other major labels manufacture(d) CDs in Austria for release throughout Europe. Epic and Columbia releases for example often state "Made In Austria". They are unlikely to be for exclusive Austrian release. We do have some genuine Austrian releases, but not many. If in doubt, enter Austrian-manufactured CDs under "Europe". The same issue applies with a lot of German-made CDs, although it is less clear. Again, if in doubt... Cheers! |
| 9th Jan 2014, 2:48 PM | #2 REPORT | |
 | Redpunk SUBS ● Crates Are For Digging Member since Aug 2012 25237 Points Moderator | Duly noted, I was going to enquire what to do regarding the CDs I had uploaded but see you've already completed the task. Thanks for your assistance. Also have a promo CD where the writing is all in English but is printed and made in Holland, would this also be entered under Europe ? |
| 9th Jan 2014, 3:37 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7167 Points Moderator |
Redpunk wrote:
Duly noted, I was going to enquire what to do regarding the CDs I had uploaded but see you've already completed the task. Thanks for your assistance. Also have a promo CD where the writing is all in English but is printed and made in Holland, would this also be entered under Europe ?
...probably yeah. Holland is another one that crops up a lot as a manufacturing country. If in doubt, you could always enter it how you think best and then post a link on this thread and throw it open for discussion. I went through Austria earlier and changed the ones that needed doing. I've been checking it every now and again and changing a few. Germany is a complete mess, we'll just chip away at that gradually I think! Edited by nboldock on 9th Jan 2014, 3:37 PM |
| 15th Jan 2014, 2:00 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | PhilMH Member since Jan 2012 1054 Points | Before the early 90's, the vast majority of CD's (singles and albums) sold in Australia (and probably New Zealand too) were imported pressings, mostly from Europe, but occasionally US, Japan, or Korea. I suspect that this would have been the case in a lot of other countries, too. Might be better to just leave the country blank, or invent a fake one called "International". |
| 16th Jan 2014, 2:49 AM | #5 REPORT | |
 | GEMSMFAN Member since Jan 2013 3324 Points | I think the Rights Society has much to do with where the CD was to be sold. Agreed, the CBS/Epic labels and such merely used a pressing plant in Austria, in fact it was there own DADC (Digital Audio Disc Corp.), hence DADC Austria in the CD matrix center ring. Back to Rights Society MCPS/BIEM = UK, GEMA = Germany, STEMRA = Holland, SACEM, SGDL, SRDM = France. and so on. Edited by GEMSMFAN on 16th Jan 2014, 2:52 AM |
| 17th Jan 2014, 9:28 AM | #6 REPORT | |
| nboldock Lend me ten pounds and I'll buy you a drink. Member since Feb 2012 7167 Points Moderator |
GEMSMFAN wrote:
I think the Rights Society has much to do with where the CD was to be sold.
Agreed, the CBS/Epic labels and such merely used a pressing plant in Austria, in fact it was there own DADC (Digital Audio Disc Corp.), hence DADC Austria in the CD matrix center ring. Back to Rights Society MCPS/BIEM = UK, GEMA = Germany, STEMRA = Holland, SACEM, SGDL, SRDM = France. and so on. Absolutely, this is another important thing to look out for. |
| 17th Jan 2014, 6:12 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| thatsunday Member since Dec 2012 4541 Points Moderator | It's common for major labels to do central pan-european deals with rights society. Reason for this is getting a better deal = paying lower rates. |
| 18th Jan 2014, 12:03 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| cvalda44 Member since May 2013 436 Points |
GEMSMFAN wrote:
I think the Rights Society has much to do with where the CD was to be sold.
Agreed, the CBS/Epic labels and such merely used a pressing plant in Austria, in fact it was there own DADC (Digital Audio Disc Corp.), hence DADC Austria in the CD matrix center ring. Back to Rights Society MCPS/BIEM = UK, GEMA = Germany, STEMRA = Holland, SACEM, SGDL, SRDM = France. and so on. The Rights Society has indeed much to do with distribution area, however it should not be considered as the last truth, but only as a piece of the puzzle, a hint. While it is probably safe to say an "MCPS" release is from UK, the "MCPS/BIEM" is not safe at all. A "MCPS/BIEM" release can be continental European release (excluding the UK!). I have a lot of releases like that. GEMA = Germany, STEMRA = Holland, SACEM, SGDL, SRDM = France - this is generally true, but not always. I have an exclusion from this rule, a STEMRA release distributed exclusively in France. |
| 19th Jan 2014, 7:06 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| Auto_Da_Fe He does what he knows best, which is not very much Member since Dec 2012 1726 Points | In recent years the rights society has become very unreliable as a guide, because so many pan-European licensing deals have been done, particularly by the majors. Much more than you (probably) want to know here |
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