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  5th Aug 2014, 8:12 PM#1  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS

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Firstly it's worth saying that you shouldn't worry too much about choosing a country as an entry can always be edited at a later date if a CD is found to have been released in several different countries or alternatively a CD entered as 'Europe' can be changed to 'Germany' if it's discovered that the German issue is different to the same album's release in other parts of Europe.

1. We DO NOT mean country of manufacture. A lot of CDs were manufactured in Austria and Holland because their factories were the best or cheapest at the time. The actual CDs produced were probably meant for sale in other parts of Europe. Country of manufacture can be mentioned in notes if you feel it is of interest.

2. For many major label releases it's likely that the release will be 'Europe' or 'International' rather than an individual country. If an identical CD is for sale in France, Luxembourg, Belgium, Holland and Germany (as an example) then we would choose EUROPE.

3. For smaller independent releases it's more likely that they should be credited to an individual country i.e Ace = UK and Bear Family = Germany. Of course Ace records and Bear Family are for sale in shops all over the world but this is slightly different from a fullscale international release by a label like Universal

A good way to think about choosing between 2 and 3 is to think about the record label involved. EMI will have offices in most countries of the developed world, their CDs are very likely to 'International' or 'Europe'. A smaller independent label like Domino only has a UK HQ and their releases are much more likely to be classified as UK.





  5th Aug 2014, 8:27 PM#2  REPORT  
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  3rd Apr 2015, 12:04 PM#3  REPORT  
ppint.

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- hi; i've a fair few columbia/columbia legacy cds which have references to only sony music entertainment inc. (& variations on this corporate entity), no statement of the country or community of manufacture and only merkin information in the package inserts, but the short sony cat# derived from the bar-code is prefixed with "col".

- should these be 45^W "cdcatted" as usa cds with this queried in comment, as i've been doing, or as international cds, or - ?

- yours, ppint.


  3rd Apr 2015, 1:11 PM#4  REPORT  
RogerFoster

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When I first joined 45Worlds I got caught out by this a couple of times.
Nowadays, for releases from 1980 or so onwards I check to see if there are a number of different catalogue numbers mentioned on the sleeve (usually with a different country/territory code, such as FR, GB, UK, DE etc., associated with each one).


  4th Apr 2015, 1:58 PM#5  REPORT  
ppint.

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but in the absence of such?


  4th Apr 2015, 7:14 PM#6  REPORT  
RogerFoster

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In the absence of such I just assume it is a U.K. issue, unless it is obviously Dutch, German, French, etc. etc.


  4th Apr 2015, 9:36 PM#7  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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There are some members here with detailed knowledge on this sort of thing, and I'm sure someone will be able to give specialist advice.

Of course, 'Europe' or 'International' are a safe bet for most recent releases on the major labels. You can always check entries for any label and see how most have been entered: if most entries for a label have been for one country you might feel you need some very good reason to enter a CD on that label under a different country

The interesting challenge comes when adding a completely new label...


  5th Apr 2015, 12:29 PM#8  REPORT  
RogerFoster

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I've just added images for this Teena Marie L.P. .... http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/epc26315

This had already been entered as a release from Holland, which is the country of manufacture of the disc. However it looks to me like it should be "Europe" instead as the back cover mentions CBS Disques S.A. (no doubt the French Distributer) and how to apply for public performance licenses in the U.K.



  11th Apr 2015, 12:56 AM#9  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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Thanks - now Europe


  29th Apr 2015, 3:00 PM#10  REPORT  
RogerFoster

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This Dionne Warwick L.P. looks to be a "Europe" release, rather than "Germany", as there are distribution details for France on the back cover.

http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/206571


  30th Apr 2015, 1:45 AM#11  REPORT  
Juke Jules SUBS

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What do you say, Malcy?


  18th May 2024, 8:01 PM#12  REPORT  
HerbieDerHerbmeister

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Hi,
I have a CD Album that was released in Kazakhstan.
But I don't see Kazakhstan in the list of countries.


  19th May 2024, 11:13 PM#13  REPORT  
TheJudge

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I've asked the Admins to add Kazakhstan to the country list. We'll let you know when this has been done.


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