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  16th Dec 2014, 8:29 PM#1  REPORT  
misa4432

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Good evening.
I have a question that is possibly simple to ask: for example, on most Yugoslavian records the common format for runouts was simply the catalogue number, side letter and date in format DDMMYY (perhaps the common practice for labels from Yugoslavia). Could this serve as a release date? I have already entered some dates based on it.



  16th Dec 2014, 8:46 PM#2  REPORT  
TheJudge

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More likely to be the pressing date, I would have thought.


  17th Dec 2014, 9:41 AM#3  REPORT  
janiejjones

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Or, more likely, the date of either cutting the lacquer orcreating the metalwork, plating, mothers, stampers, whatever?


  18th Dec 2014, 5:31 PM#4  REPORT  
misa4432

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So perhaps these aren't the same in lot of occasions? Well, I should have added only the months for releases, because it could usually take a few weeks time (or more) between the cutting and releasing.
Thanks anyway.


  19th Dec 2014, 10:16 AM#5  REPORT  
janiejjones

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To be honest, as I have no knowledge whatsoever about the Yugoslavian record industry, their policy might indeed have been to engrave the official release date in the deadwax :-))



  19th Dec 2014, 4:46 PM#6  REPORT  
misa4432

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I honestly don't think that's true.
Check out this release http://www.45worlds.com/vinyl/album/lp555364.
Many sources cite the date as 11 September 1979, although the date pressed in runout is 8879 on A side (8 August 1979) and 28879 (28 August 1979), so this marks one of the examples on different dates.


  20th Dec 2014, 11:48 AM#7  REPORT  
janiejjones

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That was not really meant seriously....sorry. But your example disc would support my opinion that either the lacquer cutting or the metalplating was dated, as pressing obviously would have the same date on both sides.


  29th Dec 2014, 12:34 AM#8  REPORT  
brady-sattler

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This is an interesting question. I have to say, I have entered some release dates on 45cat based on the runout text on some Yugoslavia ABBA 45s. I have done the same with some releases from South America, some of which have different dates on A and B sides. I'd love to know what the dates really mean.
Panama record
Yugo record with two dates


  29th Dec 2014, 3:52 PM#9  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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brady-sattler wrote:
Panama record

Can't help on the date -- but this one is not Panama! If you look at the text around the bottom of the label, it says Industria Peruana and Fabricado por FTA, Peru

It is in fact -- Peru, not Panama!

Amy


  29th Dec 2014, 4:30 PM#10  REPORT  
brady-sattler

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Indeed! Good eye. I must have entered the wrong country by mistake way back when. I've asked for a correction. Thanks for the notice!

Actually the correct Peru entry is there already.

Edited by brady-sattler on 29th Dec 2014, 4:35 PM

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