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  2nd Feb 2015, 4:17 PM#1  REPORT  
kab2112 SUBS

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I have the original issues of Hair (Polydor) Jesus Christ Superstar (MCA) Evita (MCA) but can't find any reference to any of these in the latest issue of the Rare Records Price Guide. Are they all worth less than £15 or £!8 in mint condition? or am I looking in the wrong place?.


  2nd Feb 2015, 5:22 PM#2  REPORT  
Redpunk SUBS

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They are not in the RRPG for the reason you said as award winning stage shows and movies they sold in huge numbers and are common to this this day. Evita and JCC are in almost every other job lot I buy Hair about 1 in 10.


  2nd Feb 2015, 5:25 PM#3  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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RRPG is a fascinating read... wish I lived in that world. :grin:


  2nd Feb 2015, 5:28 PM#4  REPORT  
Charlie Chalk

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Magic Marmalade wrote:
RRPG is a fascinating read... wish I lived in that world. :grin:
I wish I could find mint copies of the records at the prices they quote.


  2nd Feb 2015, 5:35 PM#5  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Chemically speaking, the album materials begin to deteriorate the second the come off the press: Oxidization and such.

(where's my old chemistry Teacher when I come with these things... I demand a recount!)

Mint my a..


  2nd Feb 2015, 5:39 PM#6  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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But seriously kab... you should just do what I do, and learn to acquire cheap tastes in music, and figure:

"At least I don't have to spend 15 coins on a new CD, as I have the vinyl!"

So you may not have record of resalable value, but you've saved 14 poundollars on the music!


  2nd Feb 2015, 6:13 PM#7  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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This is why I collect 78s. You can pick up a whole whack of them for pennies a piece and discover some truly great stuff that you wouldn't have heard of otherwise. For Example this disk: Hank Thompson which is a western swing sort of version of this disk Glenn Miller

I do like the guides though from the discographical point of view -- although I never look at them as a the ultimate most accurate source.

Of particular angst is the one by Les Docks -- his American Premium Record Guide. What a load of old rubbish. In the preface he bashes all other guides for acting all high and mighty, and then goes on to tell you why he's right, and what HE is pushing about what is collectible and what isn't. A total pillock!

http://www.amazon.ca/American-Premium-Record-Guide-1900-1965/dp/087349282X

Amy

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  10th Feb 2015, 9:16 PM#8  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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I think RRPG has reached, is reaching a fork in the road, with some serious editorial decisions to be made in order to keep it relevant.

I get the impression there's a serious need for not just a rare record price guide, but a general trade price guide.

Add to that an emerging CD collectible market, where first issues, SACDs, Digipaks, longboxes, Target CDs etc. probably meaning that the vinyl and CD fornats are desrving of thier own separate editions... you could probably say the same for each of the formats (Styles too: Classical and Jazz) ... then you have to conclude that they are trying to cram too much into one book, at the cost of necessary detail and differentiation of issues and presses of those they do include.

It could even greatly benefit them to separate 45s and vinyl albums.

All this would mean you'd get the more specific info relevant to what you want or need to know, with the starting values reduced it would include more of each that currently don't make the cut, even by a hair.

Becuase otherwise I think the world of matrix numbers, stampers, issues and subtle alterations will overwhelm it and dilute a fantastic institution and drive people away...
This may well have already happened if there were viable alternatives that spoke to those needs mentioned above (Goldmine and that outdated penguin book are likewise limited).

But I still like a physical copy of a guide, so it would be a shame if this happened.


  3rd Mar 2016, 10:36 AM#9  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Will anyone be buying this?

RRPG 2018

I have found the 2016 one becoming less and less relevant and therefore useful, as the pricing landscape changes almost by the day now (certainly week to week), and the listings are far too general to contain the relevant info that could shift an album into a new value bracket by some significant margin.

I'm going to need some convincing that it's still worth having.


  3rd Mar 2016, 12:38 PM#10  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Part of the silliness is that they call the new one a guide for 2018. By the time 2018 comes around the 2018 guide will be out of date.


  4th Mar 2016, 1:34 PM#11  REPORT  
zabadak

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Does it have MP3s? :erk:

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  8th Apr 2016, 1:36 PM#12  REPORT  
Lee Wrecker

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Of course its got MP3s they're so hard to get your hands on.


  8th Apr 2016, 3:26 PM#13  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Lee Wrecker wrote:
Of course its got MP3s they're so hard to get your hands on.

:laugh:

They'll all be sorry when the economic sheet hits the fan again (I think it just has actually) and they've got no physical media assets and the company they stream from goes out of business!

Or as the songs says:

"You don't own me...."


  8th Apr 2016, 4:38 PM#14  REPORT  
zabadak

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danny-kaye-the-kings-new-clothes-mca-s.jpg :erk:


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