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  27th May 2015, 2:36 PM#1  REPORT  
kab2112 SUBS

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A few years ago, I offered most of my Audio cassettes and VHS tapes (mainly films) to local charity shops. Because there were so many, they wanted to pick out what they wanted and I said it was an "all or nothing" situation. They wanted all the Disney films of which there were many. I ended up taking them to our local recycling centre for disposal. I kept all of the Beatles Audio Cassettes and all of the Music VHS tapes (several boxes full) I was reluctant to dispose of these for some reason, and have started to get them down from the attic to upload onto the site. This should keep me out of other mischief for a while. Most are pre-recorded retail stuff along with several that were taped direct from TV shows. I won't load these ones. Glad I kept them now, cos looking through them brings back fond memories of the good old days.

Edited by kab2112 on 27th May 2015, 3:39 PM

  27th May 2015, 3:35 PM#2  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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You should play them too!

As I found, as we now have bigger TVs, some DVDs don't make the jump up so well as VHS does, as DVDs are pixelated, they can become blocky and indistinct, as they lose resolution. but the good old VHS doesn't seem to suffer (albeit the quality of the recording and ageing of the tape may show) but worth while I found.


  27th May 2015, 4:11 PM#3  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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MM, you're quite right! My neighbour has a VHS and Betamax deck connected to his wide-screen LCD set(through selector switch, of course) and the VHS and Beta tapes give a pretty-good account of themselves, even allowing for their age.


  27th May 2015, 4:20 PM#4  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS

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The revival starts here!

:thumbsup:


  27th May 2015, 4:24 PM#5  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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Dr Doom wrote:
The revival starts here!

:thumbsup:
Well, I have the software to convert content from VHS to MPEG-2, at least!


  27th May 2015, 4:52 PM#6  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Dr Doom wrote:
The revival starts here!

:thumbsup:

I believe the expression is: "Damn Straight!!!"

I was sat open mouthed watching a VHS on a larger screen f the first time, as it suddenly dawned on me that the reason why we have Blu-Ray is primarily to account for the loss of resolution on DVDs over a certain size (Which look fine on anything about 30" or under, but that the VHS was great because resolution just isn't an issue.

like all new technology, it boils down to shifting new product, more than if it is necessary...

...ever get the feeling you've been "had" all these years as you jump through all these hoops to buy the latest stuff?


  27th May 2015, 6:55 PM#7  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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The technology we have foisted on us is created by, and for "boffins"! Tech-heads who dream up new and more elaborate gadgetry with all the "bells and whistles" and expect us to buy it and learn to use it(whatever the device may be) within a day of getting it out of its box and plonked down on the kitchen table.

As far as we have now come with consumer electronics technology, do we really need anything more? I'll answer that question thus: It's no longer a question of can we develop anything new but should we develop anything new? And the answer there is a huge, loudly screamed at the top of our voices - "NO!!!!!!"


  27th May 2015, 7:49 PM#8  REPORT  
George Slv

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TVs/monitors need specific circuitry to show VHS properly. After the tape era many monitors did not bother with that, like my RCA LCD. Picture and color are streaky and not right. It's not the tape player.


  28th May 2015, 2:14 AM#9  REPORT  
vidman45

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I got my nickname "vidman" before the turn of the century when I had thousands of VHS videos. I bought some, and rented and copied others. When I retired and moved cross the country, I moved several of my better VCRs and about half of my tapes. I was working on transferring videos to digital files and DVD-R discs, but the VCR's started breaking down, and repair shops disappeared. My next problem was with the transfer software which stopped working when a new operating system was used. I have many tapes, but no way to view or transfer them. Since I have run out of 45's, LP's and CD's to add to this site, I have just started adding some VHS tapes. I am not thrilled with VHS being part of the DVD World with no special entry space for music videos.


  28th May 2015, 11:16 AM#10  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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I use a VHS palyer plugged into my HDD/DVD recorder (scart lead) to record them via the HDD to disc.

I think it would be a good idea to subdivide the worlds in future, so those who just want those can get straight to the music vids, but that's probably a lot of work!


  28th May 2015, 12:04 PM#11  REPORT  
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I always liked the idea of these worlds being related to music only - with perhaps separated worlds for other things like subject specific magazines, books (when they appear), also more general film genres..... But I think overall the site is excellent and really interesting. Keep up the good work.


  9th Jun 2015, 12:24 PM#12  REPORT  
Pridesale

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The problem with VHS is bulky (both the media and the equipment) for those who live in cheap flats (or Japan) hence the micronisation of technology to 'good enough'. Couple of charity shops still take good VHS as not all can afford or work DVDs and similar (and a 10/20p each price tag is cheap !).

I'll have some to add, and work out what pre-records I want to keep (not many) its the off-air recordings - where even the news and ads become part of the remembered experiance.


  13th Jul 2015, 10:11 PM#13  REPORT  
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Magic Marmalade wrote:
You should play them too!

As I found, as we now have bigger TVs, some DVDs don't make the jump up so well as VHS does, as DVDs are pixelated, they can become blocky and indistinct, as they lose resolution. but the good old VHS doesn't seem to suffer (albeit the quality of the recording and ageing of the tape may show) but worth while I found.

Do you think 4K upscalers might get rid of that problem ?. I'm using a 49" LG 4K UHD TV and playing my DVD's through a Sony 4K Blu-Ray player and I have to say the quality of the DVD's (so far) have been great with no noticable blockiness and the like.


  14th Jul 2015, 12:56 PM#14  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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My VHS recorder plays through my Sony DVD/HDD recorder to a 42" screen, and this upscales, so maybe it is taking care of a lot of it...

On my old 26" screen, HD was a pretty pointless concept, as the screen was not large enough to show a difference, (and I wasn't sitting with my nose on the screen!), but the larger screen begins to reveal any shortcomings (Which is why we have Blu-Ray, essentially), and a few of my DVDs have shown themselves to have been not recorded to the disc with any great detail (Low pixel density), which begin to dissolve at this scale, with blocky edges, and washed out colours, even after the upscale..

... but a lot of the VHS, although softer edges even on a smaller screen, doesn't show any new shortcomings when I played them on the bigger screen, and just look the same, only bigger.

I suppose if you want the hyper-realism of Blu-Ray quality, then you may still be disappointed, but the VHS is very watchable at this scale, whereas those of my DVDs that have suffered through the jump begin to be a bit of a struggle to watch, the blockiness, and in particular, the tracking of motion is jarring.

I'm not sure if you're up-scaler up-scales to 4K, or approximate, but I'd say the VHS will look OK... tracking motion not an issue either.

One example where the VHS wins over the DVD at this level is the Star Wars trilogy (I've the silver and black boxes on both formats), and the VHS actually suits the feel of the film better (so more nostalgia reasons than technical ones!)... the original film looks the way it used to... and in my opinion: ought to.


  14th Jul 2015, 1:20 PM#15  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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There's also something you can do with LCD flat-screen TVs that could not be done with older CRT sets... And what's that? I hear you asking in unison! You can point a videocamera at a flat-screen LCD set and shoot the image without the flicker and "strobing" effect you'd get from a CRT screen.


  21st Aug 2015, 12:54 PM#16  REPORT  
Pridesale

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But with flat screen tellies you cannot balance the pile of books on top of it !


  21st Aug 2015, 2:08 PM#17  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Pridesale wrote:
But with flat screen tellies you cannot balance the pile of books on top of it !

You can if the screen's pointing at the ceiling. :grin:


  21st Aug 2015, 2:38 PM#18  REPORT  
Neil Forbes

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Magic Marmalade wrote:
Pridesale wrote:
But with flat screen tellies you cannot balance the pile of books on top of it !

You can if the screen's pointing at the ceiling. :grin:

.....And that's "flat"! :heehee:


  1st Apr 2016, 11:00 AM#19  REPORT  
Graham7

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Exciting news from BBC Store Video - "very soon for every purchase you make on BBC Store, we will send you a free VHS straight to your door!"





  1st Apr 2016, 5:28 PM#20  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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:grin:

The BBC have a sense of humour!

(That should be headline news on their 24 hour news channel... but Sky would probably beat them to it.)

((Any more of this kind of self deprecation could be construed as a burgeoning self awareness bordering on not taking themselves too seriously... like the rest of us do))


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