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| 12th Sep 2016, 1:57 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | GEMSMFAN Member since Jan 2013 3324 Points | If you have a piece of music that spans over 4 tracks, does it make sense to repeat it 4 times. See my submission here OR I realized I submitted already sometime ago as this. Look at image 1149838/851, to see what I'm talking about |
| 12th Sep 2016, 1:59 AM | #2 REPORT | |
| GEMSMFAN Member since Jan 2013 3324 Points | If tracks are repeated, I'll be creating a 100 track submission |
| 12th Sep 2016, 7:23 AM | #3 REPORT | |
 | TopPopper Member since Mar 2013 2612 Points | I'd go for the first one - the longer option, and maybe mark them 1st movement, 2nd movement etc. |
| 12th Sep 2016, 10:02 AM | #4 REPORT | |
 | Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3735 Points Moderator | Where this is the case, I usually find that it's because the particular piece is broken into it's constituent components: Piano Concerto No.1; Op.23: Adagio Allegro etc. I count these as the separate tracks - as they play - you really need to look at the booklet sometimes to see these. So when entering, I will do: Track 1: Piano Concerto No.1; Op.23 SECTIONBREAK Adagio Track 2: Allegro etc. For it to appear as: Piano Concerto No.1; Op.23 (Heading) Track1: Adagio Track 2: Allegro. But it has been a difficult thing to work out when the inclusion of a vinyl album requires sides 1 and 2 to be distinguished, as you only get one sectionbreak, so this distinction must be included alongside the heading. I resolved to use capitals for the different sides, just so you can distinguish from the headings when reading. But this can be even further confused when there are sub-sections to these individual tracks that all, collectively appear under one heading for the piece, such as the movements... and still with the need to add sides 1 and two. Classical needs more sectionbreaks than most other worlds to properly represent what's on these discs. So if this, or sub-sectionbreaks could be added as a possibility, it would be good (And the distinction between sides 1 and two for vinyl albums could be added as it is on vinyl world as a matter of course). |
| 13th Sep 2016, 1:14 AM | #5 REPORT | |
 | The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS🍰 My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8070 Points Moderator | @MM: I'm a bit unsure of what you mean here. "But it has been a difficult thing to work out when the inclusion of a vinyl album requires sides 1 and 2 to be distinguished, as you only get one sectionbreak" 754-4 - no restrictions on sectionbreaks here. I know it's not classical but I can't see that a restriction would be placed on classical and not on others. |
| 13th Sep 2016, 10:15 AM | #6 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3735 Points Moderator | I wasn't too clear about what I meant there, sorry.... What I meant was that you can only use one sectionbreak in any one line, but in classical, you frequently need more than one, as there may be headings, and sub-headings that you need to appear as part of the same thing: Side 1 - Piano Concerto No.X - 1st Movement - Adagio say, which ought to appear as: Side 1 Piano Concerto No.X 1st Movement A1 (track): Adagio With the first three lines of that needing to be on separate lines as heading and sub-headings, before the track, as it is numbered, and plays on the disc is listed. If you attempt to do: Side 1 SECTIONBREAK Piano Concerto No.X SECTIONBREAK 1st Movement etc, on one line in the track field, then only one of those sectionbreaks registers, and the other cancelled as there is no facility for subheadings, only one heading. If the fields distinguished sides 1 and 2, as tracks A1, A2, A3, and B1, B2, B3 and so on, when you select the vinyl album option from the drop down box, so the entry page appears as it does in the vinyl world, then that would eliminate the need for the first part of the heading (the sides), and so eliminate the need for one of the sectionbreaks, but you'd still need more than one on one line to make the work heading, movement, any other distinctions in that work |
| 13th Sep 2016, 10:25 AM | #7 REPORT | |
 | zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4148 Points | Q. What's brown and sits on a piano stool? A. Beethoven's last movement. I'm here all week, try the veal.  |
| 13th Sep 2016, 10:48 AM | #8 REPORT | |
| The_Vinyl_Junkie SUBS🍰 My body is on the diminishing streak. Member since Dec 2011 8070 Points Moderator | Thanks MM, I now see where you are coming from. |
| 13th Sep 2016, 12:20 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3735 Points Moderator | "Normal" classical discs are generally OK, as you can just capitalise the "SIDE 1" and 2, to make it easier to read, and make out what's what... it's a particular pain in the doin's with opera though, as these have multiple universes of titles and names each trapped one inside the other, which you need the extra sub-breaks to include. @zab-and-a-dak: Did you say you're here all weak? I'd always Bach you to make jokes like that, I guess you've got a whole Liszt of them |
| 13th Sep 2016, 1:40 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4148 Points |
Magic Marmalade wrote:
"Normal" classical discs are generally OK, as you can just capitalise the "SIDE 1" and 2, to make it easier to read, and make out what's what... it's a particular pain in the doin's with opera though, as these have multiple universes of titles and names each trapped one inside the other, which you need the extra sub-breaks to include.
@zab-and-a-dak: Did you say you're here all weak? I'd always Bach you to make jokes like that, I guess you've got a whole Liszt of them  |
| 13th Sep 2016, 1:41 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| zabadak Caddacack oh da ca-caddacack, shy shy skagellack Member since Jun 2010 4148 Points | Some graverobbers were opening Beethoven's tomb. When they got the lid off, they saw the great man sat there, one of his manuscripts in his hand, going over the notes with an eraser. "What are you doing?" they asked. "Decomposing..."  |
| 20th Sep 2016, 1:59 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| Magic Marmalade If you're not lost... It's not an adventure! Member since Jun 2014 3735 Points Moderator | Maybe he was just semi-breaving (I know, I know) ... anyway, you can't stave off time forever. |
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