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  5th Mar 2017, 6:16 PM#1  REPORT  
JPGR&B SUBS

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Sgt. Pepper's to be rereleased on 1 June with two extra tracks - Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane - according to U.K. newspaper The Sunday Times today. According to "sources", Apple Corps, the Beatles' company, will reinstate the tracks, just as Lennon and McCartney had intended.


  5th Mar 2017, 8:27 PM#2  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Wow. I'm surprised and also a little bit sceptical. For one thing it will dent the commercial appeal of Magical Mystery Tour, but also it wouldn't really work as a concept. With those two tracks, Pepper would have had a different track listing - Lovey Rita or Within You Without You might not have been present, for example. SFF and PL would have no doubt been situated during the running order, not at one end.

Anyway, will watch out with interest. Could set a precedent - Revolver with Rain and Paperback Writer? White Album with Hey Jude and Revolution?


  5th Mar 2017, 9:01 PM#3  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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Just how big is this yacht that McCartney is after?!!!

...First they go through the whole reissue programme in stereo and mono, then give Apple the green light for downloads and streaming, then do the Di Antagonistic thing, now this.

I'm beginning to get the Dead Parrot sketch running through my mind for some reason.


  6th Mar 2017, 1:33 PM#4  REPORT  
zabadak

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Ridiculous!!!

When it was first issued on CD (1987 IIRC), "they" explicitly said "they" wouldn't do that as it would be "altering history", Hypocrites! :angry:


  7th Mar 2017, 11:15 AM#5  REPORT  
Lee Wrecker

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Hey Eggheads, uh, I mean Eggmen will they be releasing a special 13" LP with the extra tracks added on in their original running order? We might all need to save our buttons though for a special McCartnophonic turntable to play the album on! It would be worth it wouldn't it?


  7th Mar 2017, 2:32 PM#6  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Simply use your existing George Harrison turntable.


  7th Mar 2017, 2:39 PM#7  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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The Beatles haven't floated on the stock markets recently have they?

...they whole travelling circus has gone into cash cow overdrive lately.

Maybe we should boycott the Beatles...

...as we would any other huge, faceless, money-grabbing, fat-cat corporation. :grin:


  7th Mar 2017, 4:34 PM#8  REPORT  
Focus B

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Rather pointless I would have thought, even if SFF and PL were originally made for the project. I can't visualise where they could fit with the rest of the tracks.

We've also got used to them being part of the MMT album too.

When I first saw the thread I was hoping to hear alternative takes of tracks on the album being included as a bonus disc or album. That would have made the 50th anniversary something to really look forward to.

Think I'll stick to my 1967 first stereo pressing thanks.


  7th Mar 2017, 6:57 PM#9  REPORT  
TopPopper

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If I may offer a wee counterbalance here ...

I think it's fair enough - long overdue, some would say - that they issued the albums in remastered form in 2009.

The vinyl versions followed, and again I think it's only right that they are available in stores.

What bothered me a little was that you had to buy a whole box set for the mono editions, but hey-ho.

As for the DeAgostini editions, it's only we obsessives that know or care that the small print is slightly different. No-one has to buy them - I'm just pleased to see them on the high street. Better than not, I say.


  11th Mar 2017, 4:20 PM#10  REPORT  
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JPGR&B wrote:
Sgt. Pepper's to be rereleased on 1 June with two extra tracks - Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane - according to U.K. newspaper The Sunday Times today. According to "sources", Apple Corps, the Beatles' company, will reinstate the tracks, just as Lennon and McCartney had intended.

There is evidence that Sgt Pepper was re-mixed for Quadraphonic. So if they want to do something special, rather than add two tracks that weren't meant to be there in the first place, why don't they re-mix the album in DTS 5.1 Surround and give us something completely new


  6th May 2017, 4:49 PM#11  REPORT  
zabadak

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Some source photos :cool:

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  1st Jun 2017, 4:24 PM#12  REPORT  
RecordDragon

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Lee Wrecker wrote:
Hey Eggheads, uh, I mean Eggmen will they be releasing a special 13" LP with the extra tracks added on in their original running order? We might all need to save our buttons though for a special McCartnophonic turntable to play the album on! It would be worth it wouldn't it?

13" LP??



  1st Jun 2017, 4:25 PM#13  REPORT  
RecordDragon

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Quad5point1 wrote:
JPGR&B wrote:
Sgt. Pepper's to be rereleased on 1 June with two extra tracks - Strawberry Fields Forever and Penny Lane - according to U.K. newspaper The Sunday Times today. According to "sources", Apple Corps, the Beatles' company, will reinstate the tracks, just as Lennon and McCartney had intended.

There is evidence that Sgt Pepper was re-mixed for Quadraphonic. So if they want to do something special, rather than add two tracks that weren't meant to be there in the first place, why don't they re-mix the album in DTS 5.1 Surround and give us something completely new

The new release is being remixed in 5.1


  1st Jun 2017, 4:55 PM#14  REPORT  
janiejjones

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13"" is a real good one.... :grin: but inreality, modern plauers would be able to handle them, on mine at least there is ample space between record rim and arm supports....


  5th Jun 2017, 2:44 PM#15  REPORT  
Jock_Girl

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Just picked up the 2 CD set on Friday. Many curious things there

First -- in order to stay 'true' I note that it has Parlophone and EMI plastered all over it in addition to Apple, Capitol and UMe logos. I didn't see any mention of attributing Parlophone to WEA,

Although bought in Canada at Walmart, my copy is a US manufactured item, both packaging and CDs with no mention of Canada

Has anyone complied what the Giles Martin re-mix differences are.

Unless I'm mistaken, not all the stuff on CD2 (sessions) is new. Wasn't some of this on Anthology?

That said, I'd love to see a similar treatment for Revolver and Rubber Soul

Amy


  5th Jun 2017, 3:02 PM#16  REPORT  
Magic Marmalade

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It occurred to me the other day why I object so much to all this extra nonsense they add to releases:

To their minds, it's like showing you Da Vinci's Sketchbooks, and by so doing, showing you the wonders of a genius at work, by looking in his mind to see how he arrived at the outcome.

...To my mind, an album is like a magic trick... I don't want to see how it's done, as that's where the magic is, and how it worked so well in the first place.

It seems to be diluting the magic, and making it mundane.

One copy of Sgt. Pepper is all you need, All you need is one copy of Sgt. Pepper:

The original release.


  5th Jun 2017, 9:42 PM#17  REPORT  
TopPopper

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Jock Girl,

The main album is standard, but the remixes are in better fidelity and the stereo picture much altered, to bring instruments and voices more central, then with additional separation in strategic places, for dynamic effect.

As regards the extras, I posted the listing below on a different thread. It's mainly cobbled from info on other websites but I believe it's correct. It details everything on the super-deluxe box set, but all the tracks on disc 2 of the two-disc edition are here, I believe.

===================

Previously issued on Anthology:

- Strawberry Fields Forever [Take 1]
- Strawberry Fields Forever [Take 7]
- A Day In The Life [Take 1]
- A Day In The Life [Take 2]
- A Day In The Life [Orchestra Overdub]
- Good Morning Good Morning [Take 8]
- Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! [Take 7]

Previously issued on bootleg only:

- Strawberry Fields Forever [Take 4]
- Strawberry Fields Forever [Take 26]
- Penny Lane [Vocal Overdubs]
- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band [Take 9]

Never released previously:

- Strawberry Fields Forever [Stereo Mix - 2015]
- When I'm Sixty-Four [Take 2]
- Penny Lane [Take 6 – Instrumental]
- Penny Lane [Stereo Mix - 2017]
- A Day In The Life (Hummed Last Chord) [Takes 8, 9, 10 and 11]
- A Day In The Life (The Last Chord)
- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band [Take 1 – Instrumental]
- Good Morning Good Morning [Take 1 - Instrumental, Breakdown]
- Fixing A Hole [Take 1]
- Fixing A Hole [Speech And Take 3]
- Being For The Benefit Of Mr. Kite! [Speech From Before Take 1; Take 4 And Speech At End]
- Lovely Rita [Speech And Take 9]
- Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds [Take 1 And Speech At The End]
- Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds [Speech, False Start And Take 5]
- Getting Better [Take 1 - Instrumental And Speech At The End]
- Getting Better [Take 12]
- Within You Without You [Take 1 - Indian Instruments Only]
- Within You Without You [George Coaching The Musicians]
- She's Leaving Home [Take 1 – Instrumental]
- She's Leaving Home [Take 6 – Instrumental]
- With A Little Help From My Friends [Take 1 - False Start And Take 2 – Instrumental]
- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (Reprise) [Speech And Take 8]



  6th Jun 2017, 11:57 AM#18  REPORT  
zabadak

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Jock_Girl wrote:
Just picked up the 2 CD set on Friday. Many curious things there

First -- in order to stay 'true' I note that it has Parlophone and EMI plastered all over it in addition to Apple, Capitol and UMe logos. I didn't see any mention of attributing Parlophone to WEA,

Although bought in Canada at Walmart, my copy is a US manufactured item, both packaging and CDs with no mention of Canada

Has anyone complied what the Giles Martin re-mix differences are.

Unless I'm mistaken, not all the stuff on CD2 (sessions) is new. Wasn't some of this on Anthology?

That said, I'd love to see a similar treatment for Revolver and Rubber Soul

Amy
Sorry - why is a US release on Parlophone? :confused:


  6th Jun 2017, 6:42 PM#19  REPORT  
TopPopper

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The UK albums are now marketed in America as the standard discography.

CD re-releases of the original Capitol compilation albums can be had, but they are no longer considered definitive. As Pepper came out after Capitol stopped making up their own albums, it no longer exists as a Capitol product. (Same with the White Album, Abbey Road and Let It Be.)

Correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, US folk. It's just my understanding of the situation today.


  7th Jun 2017, 1:41 AM#20  REPORT  
mister_tmg

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I went and bought the standard 2009 CD re-issue of the album on Friday. I want to have "the original release" - well, the nearest thing in digital form.


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