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  18th Mar 2017, 9:44 PM#1  REPORT  
Dr Doom SUBS

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Can anyone think of any reason for this

When we already have this?



  18th Mar 2017, 10:20 PM#2  REPORT  
nboldock

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One's Apple, one's Parlophone... though surely the first pressing was Apple?

(Or was it?)


  19th Mar 2017, 12:15 AM#3  REPORT  
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nboldock wrote:
One's Apple, one's Parlophone...

Doh!

:grin:


  19th Mar 2017, 12:18 AM#4  REPORT  
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My Beatles pal seems to be saying that if a Parlophone pressing of Ram exists then it may be an export issue and/or rare as hen's teeth.

:confused:


  19th Mar 2017, 7:56 AM#5  REPORT  
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According to the other site and a few other internet sources this could be an Israel issue but we would need to see the scans to perhaps work it out correctly.

Edited by moderator on 19th Mar 2017, 7:57 AM

  19th Mar 2017, 10:28 AM#6  REPORT  
TopPopper

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I'm not aware of a Parlophone edition. It could be one of those cases where the wrong labels were used by mistake, like here - so it's really an Apple record with Parlophone branding.


  19th Mar 2017, 1:02 PM#7  REPORT  
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Wasn't there a period starting sometime in the late 70s (1977?) when The Beatles' (group and solo) efforts on Apple were reissued on Parlophone (or Capitol in the US), following Apple's move into administration or whatever? I have just looked in my 1984 edition of Music Master, and this album, along with the White Album, Abbey Road and Let It Be, are all shown as being on Parlophone. Also, I don't think the Parlophone copy is an Israeli issue, because the 1E at the beginning of the second catalogue number is one of EMI's country codes for the UK, according to the EMI page in Discogs.


  19th Mar 2017, 1:12 PM#8  REPORT  
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P.S. the Israeli version in Discogs doesn't have the 1E at the start of the second catalogue number.


  19th Mar 2017, 4:31 PM#9  REPORT  
TopPopper

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PhilMH wrote:
Wasn't there a period starting sometime in the late 70s (1977?) when The Beatles' (group and solo) efforts on Apple were reissued on Parlophone (or Capitol in the US), following Apple's move into administration or whatever?

I don't think so. They were always techincally Parlophone releases - the Beatles were signed to Parlophone all along - but used Apple labels on the records. I don't think anything which originally came out with Apple labels was re-issued with Parlophone labels. I think the cassettes maybe dropped their Apple logo for a while, but not LPs.


  19th Mar 2017, 6:54 PM#10  REPORT  
sladesounds

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PhilMH wrote:
P.S. the Israeli version in Discogs doesn't have the 1E at the start of the second catalogue number.

Ah missed that!

What country does 1E stand for - with all the EMI Country codes I have 1E doesn't show.


  20th Mar 2017, 3:31 AM#11  REPORT  
PhilMH🍰

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EMI country codes list copied from Discogs - 1E is UK.

The EMI country codes (introduced on 1 June, 1969): In most cases the EMI Codes are the first two letters of the record's catalog#. These EMI Country Codes were used to indicate the country in which the record was pressed. Note this doesn't necessarily means the record was also released in that country. Please enter this catalogue number against whichever label is branded on the release.

OC = UK
0C = UK
1A = Holland
1C = Germany
1E = UK
1J = Spain
2C = France
2E = Austria
2J = Greece
3C = Italy
3E = Switzerland
4B, 4C = Belgium
4E = Sweden
5C = Holland
5E = Finland
6C = Denmark
6E = Denmark
7C = Sweden
7E = Norway
8E = Portugal
9C = Finland
10C = Spain
11C = Portugal
12C = Austria
13C = Switzerland
14C = Greece
16C = Australia (unused on releases)
17C = New Zealand (unused on releases)
31C = Brazil
33C = Mexico


  20th Mar 2017, 8:03 AM#12  REPORT  
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Thanks Phil

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  29th Mar 2017, 2:48 PM#13  REPORT  
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Labels now added

paul-and-linda-mccartney-ram-32-ab-t.jpg


  29th Mar 2017, 4:49 PM#14  REPORT  
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Fascinating. No idea why it was on Parlophone.


  29th Mar 2017, 5:01 PM#15  REPORT  
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Why is the album title: "Ram", inside the Parlophone box?

Is the label print pissed too?

(Dare I suggest it looks a bit fishy)


  29th Mar 2017, 8:37 PM#16  REPORT  
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Magic Marmalade wrote:
(Dare I suggest it looks a bit fishy)

My thoughts also. Something ain't right here

Amy


  29th Mar 2017, 9:53 PM#17  REPORT  
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Good point Magic Marmalade.


  30th Mar 2017, 11:38 AM#18  REPORT  
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Well I can confirm that the record does exist. To be honest I'm not sure if the wonkiness is my photo or the actual label. Think it must be the label though.

I didn't get a loan of the album to do proper scans, just a photo using my phone.

As far as he could tell the sleeve was exactly the same as the regular Apple pressing.

His theory is that it's some kind of export issue or at a push a pressing plant couldn't get hold of the Apple labels (for whatever reason) and knocked these out in a hurry.

We may never know but I can confirm that it's not some photoshop mock up.

:happy:


  30th Mar 2017, 1:33 PM#19  REPORT  
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That's my hunch too - using blank Parlophone labels as a work-around as proper Apple labels were not available. I am not aware of any of these albums being legitimately released on Parlophone, although it's fun to see this one.


  30th Mar 2017, 3:01 PM#20  REPORT  
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Whilst I am certain that the record exists and is not a counterfeit item or even a photoshop, somehow I feel that it is one of those 'created collectibles" like these

The Beatles - Canadian experimental pressings

Amy


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