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British Dance Bands On Record 1911 To 1945

5th Jan 2019, 2:35 PM		#1 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	This book is available to download for free: British Dance Bands On Record 1911 To 1945 by Brian Rust and Sandy Forbes It was essentially a second print of the first edition from 1987, which has a blue cover. The first edition carried a discography of all British dance bands from 1911 to 1945, and was uploaded a while ago. However, two years later, the second print of the book added a “supplement”, which was an appendix listing corrections and omissions from the original. I’ve scanned that and it too is now available to download. Phonotone Classic Both files are searchable PDFs and will be useful for adding records to this site. A few quibbles: 1. It was too difficult for the authors to integrate the supplement data with the original book, so does everything have to be double checked with the new index? It seems so if you want to be sure of anything. 2. They exclude bands which do not strictly fit their criteria, such as the accordion bands of Primo Scala and Billy Reid. I would think of these as dance bands and they featured the same vocalists. 3. The book ends at 1945 because this is apparently when the dance band era was over. Yet they were still regularly performing and recording for a good few years. I would have ended the book later. Ted Heath and Billy Cotton continued the tradition although in a different way. Nonetheless it’s a great work and really useful. I just wish someone would update it. Edited by mister_tmg on 17th Feb 2019, 12:39 PM

5th Jan 2019, 3:32 PM		#2 REPORT
	scrough No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3424 Points Moderator	Many thanks for that link! I have Rust and Walker's British Dance Bands 1912-1939 published 1973, so it will be interesting to compare the two.

6th Jan 2019, 12:18 AM		#3 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	Glad to be of service! Is that book a discography too?

6th Jan 2019, 4:04 PM		#4 REPORT
	scrough No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :( Member since Jan 2013 3424 Points Moderator	Its the same as the usual Rust publications. Alphabetical by name, then by date of recording.

6th Jan 2019, 7:22 PM		#5 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	I didn't know about that book. Thanks for the info.

15th Feb 2019, 8:37 PM		#6 REPORT
	Railmaster London Member since Feb 2019 68 Points	Does the first book draw on Rust or do they have access to additional resources - I always thought Brian was pretty close to completist of the genre. I have a few of the LBC/Capital Radio Broadcasts I taped to cassette - wish I had done many more. It is interesting as to why Dance Band era - on disc at least - finished in 1945(ish). Was it the coming of the 45, the rise of Entertainment on the Radio - and Then TV, so that people went out less. Ted Heath somewhat ended up paying his band members from his own pocket by the 1960s as the venue revenues did not cover costs. Although the 'Group Combo' for want of a better term probably started to rise from the mid 1950s, the ballroom dance bands locally probably carried on, but were they semi-professional where they would have a day job as the evenings didn't pay (enough). Yet the BBC kept space within its Comedy, say, schedules for slots for the dance band type leaders etc. I suppose there was a move to Jazz orientation and fandom ( modern and trad ) that was less universal, and the WW2 death of some of the key singers and band members must have contributed to changes. (comment also overlaps to/from http://www.45worlds.com/topic/100284) Edited by Railmaster London on 15th Feb 2019, 8:52 PM

17th Feb 2019, 12:38 PM		#7 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	Railmaster London wrote: Does the first book draw on Rust or do they have access to additional resources - I always thought Brian was pretty close to completist of the genre. I have a few of the LBC/Capital Radio Broadcasts I taped to cassette - wish I had done many more. Rust is co-author of all the books mentioned here.

9th May 2023, 6:23 PM		#8 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	Bumping this for Mike Wilson.

1st Jun 2023, 11:31 PM		#9 REPORT
	Pridesale ● Member since Mar 2013 805 Points	Also needs some cross referencing (no disrespect to the authors who worked from the recording company information), to The Gramophone magazine reviews as some ot the marginal none british/ non dance might be found in that publication

6th Jun 2023, 12:29 AM		#10 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	Pridesale wrote: Also needs some cross referencing (no disrespect to the authors who worked from the recording company information), to The Gramophone magazine reviews as some ot the marginal none british/ non dance might be found in that publication I’m not sure what you mean?

9th Jun 2023, 7:55 PM		#11 REPORT
	Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points	mister_tmg wrote: Bumping this for Mike Wilson. Many thanks

10th May 2024, 2:21 AM		#12 REPORT
	mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points	The links here should be added to the 78rpm Useful Links thread.

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