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| 23rd Mar 2021, 11:53 PM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Monarch [Victor] shows MONARCH RECORD and Little Nipper on the label while Victor Monarch shows VICTOR MONARCH RECORD with or without Little Nipper The catalog No's are not distinctly different, although they are all over the place, and all are single-sided. Do we have a consensus that there are two different labels, and if so should we have a note about the difference shown for each discography? |
| 29th Mar 2021, 9:33 AM | #2 REPORT | |
 | carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1707 Points Moderator | I think they must be linked somehow, although I cant find anything on the web that backs me up. Aside from the fact that in the early days of Victor there were multiple legal wrangles going on in behind the scenes with the records and machines. There is one bit of useful info from wiki : "the first use of the Victor title on a letterhead, was March 28, 1901" |
| 29th Mar 2021, 9:37 AM | #3 REPORT | |
| carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1707 Points Moderator | A quick read of the 1904 catalogue confirms that Monach and Victor are being marketed by the same company. To quote: All selections in this Victor and Monarch List are made in both Victor 7-inch and Monarch 10-inch, except those marked "V", which are in Victor 7 inch only, and those marked "M", which are in Monarch 10 inch only. It appears "Victor" , "Monarch" and "De Luxe" [12" discs***] started life as a trade names associated with the disc size? *** 12" operatic discs being marketed as "Red Seal" and $3 apiece and therefore top of the range by price. Edited by carryonsidney on 29th Mar 2021, 9:51 AM |
| 29th Mar 2021, 10:07 AM | #4 REPORT | |
| Juke Jules SUBS Tell me he's lazy, tell me he's slow Member since Jan 2011 4138 Points Moderator | Thanks: so we need to include De Luxe in any comments on the discographies. I see we have both 10" and 7" discs under Victor Monarch |
| 29th Mar 2021, 10:46 AM | #5 REPORT | |
| carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1707 Points Moderator | Sorry Jules I think that De Luxe blues label is a separate entity, the Victor De Luxe has Nipper on the label and title like De Luxe Record in the same arrangement as the other labels  Edited by carryonsidney on 29th Mar 2021, 12:09 PM |
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