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  1st May 2023, 1:59 PM#1  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
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The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

Edited by Mike Wilson1 on 1st May 2023, 8:51 PM

  2nd May 2023, 1:28 AM#2  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
His recording of Lucky You, Lucky Me from the musical revue "Come Out to Play" (1940) is also fairly hard to come by. I do know a collector of Turner Layton's records who has it, and made a video of the record being played. Maybe he has those others too. Regarding the records, I would imagine that the publication Columbia FB Variety and Dance Band Records would verify the information. It's available at https://www.clpgs.org.uk/label-discographies.html (along with other label listings).


  3rd May 2023, 9:50 PM#3  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
His recording of Lucky You, Lucky Me from the musical revue "Come Out to Play" (1940) is also fairly hard to come by. I do know a collector of Turner Layton's records who has it, and made a video of the record being played. Maybe he has those others too. Regarding the records, I would imagine that the publication Columbia FB Variety and Dance Band Records would verify the information. It's available at https://www.clpgs.org.uk/label-discographies.html (along with other label listings).

Excellent info, many thanks

Edited by moderator on 8th May 2023, 5:03 AM

  3rd May 2023, 11:28 PM#4  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
Glad to help, I have the CLPGS Columbia DB series book and it's very good.


  4th May 2023, 12:08 AM#5  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!


  4th May 2023, 11:09 AM#6  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!

Many years ago I was a proof reader for Colin Larkins Encyclopedia of Popular Music as well as doing some correction work for Guinness Publications like The Book Of Hit Singles....There was a huge amount of stuff that Steve Waters team were going through and we used to term it as "Percy's Bits Of Paper"


  4th May 2023, 11:27 AM#7  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?.........Yes these were the two that I had my worst doubts on.......Safe In My Arms I'm not even sure if that was the title as it was from a book that has too many mistakes in it for my liking......FB2795 went to something else but I don't know what it went to.......


  4th May 2023, 11:43 AM#8  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!

Many years ago I was a proof reader for Colin Larkins Encyclopedia of Popular Music as well as doing some correction work for Guinness Publications like The Book Of Hit Singles....There was a huge amount of stuff that Steve Waters team were going through and we used to term it as "Percy's Bits Of Paper"

Ah, I see. Interesting. Re FB2795, surely the answer is in the other thread? Strange As It Seems / This Is No Laughing Matter are the titles. Discogs has a label photo of the former side.


  7th May 2023, 2:17 PM#9  REPORT  
danceband91

Member since Nov 2020
119 Points
Turner Layton Columbia FB 2421 is actually titled "Safe In My Heart" not "Safe In My Arms".
There's a picture of it here: https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/turner-layton-safe-in-my-heart-78-columbia-fb2421
So it definitely exists but unfortunately I still can't find a recording of it anywhere.


  7th May 2023, 3:45 PM#10  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
danceband91 wrote:
Turner Layton Columbia FB 2421 is actually titled "Safe In My Heart" not "Safe In My Arms".
There's a picture of it here: https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/turner-layton-safe-in-my-heart-78-columbia-fb2421
So it definitely exists but unfortunately I still can't find a recording of it anywhere.

Well you have certainly come through for me anyway by supplying that photo, I thought that the title might have been wrong but now this gives me something to go on....Many thanks......There are quite a few Turner Layton's that are elusive and hard to get


  7th May 2023, 3:45 PM#11  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Heart Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!

Many years ago I was a proof reader for Colin Larkins Encyclopedia of Popular Music as well as doing some correction work for Guinness Publications like The Book Of Hit Singles....There was a huge amount of stuff that Steve Waters team were going through and we used to term it as "Percy's Bits Of Paper"

Ah, I see. Interesting. Re FB2795, surely the answer is in the other thread? Strange As It Seems / This Is No Laughing Matter are the titles. Discogs has a label photo of the former side.



  7th May 2023, 3:47 PM#12  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
The late, great Turner Layton sold records by the truckload during his lifetime but it seems to me that there is a chronic shortage of much of his output.....So much so that I thought I would ask if any of our members have any of the following as it is very difficult to complete a discography of his recordings.....The catalogue numbers I have may not even be correct as these were gleaned from Percy Dicken's bits of paper strewn over his garage...The 78's I cannot locate are:

I Hear A Rhapsody Columbia FB 2666
Only Forever Columbia FB 2545
The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie Columbia FB 2614
It's Always You Columbia FB 2614
This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795
Safe In My Heart Columbia FB 2421
We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486

If you do have any of these could you please message me.......Mike

According to contemporary newspaper adverts, The Little Boy Who Never Told A Lie on Columbia FB 2614 was indeed coupled with It's Always You. Only Forever c/w Maybe was on FB 2545. I Hear A Rhapsody on Columbia FB 2666 was coupled with Love in a Misty Lane.

This Is Worth Fighting For Columbia FB 2795 - seems dubious. Perhaps it was a cancelled release, given that the catalogue number was allocated to something else?

Safe In My Arms Columbia FB 2421 - I can't find any evidence of this. I wonder what the CLPGS book has for that number?

We'll Go Smiling Along Columbia FB 2486 - coupled with Love Stay in My Heart.

I wonder how you came across Percy Dickens' bits of paper!

Many years ago I was a proof reader for Colin Larkins Encyclopedia of Popular Music as well as doing some correction work for Guinness Publications like The Book Of Hit Singles....There was a huge amount of stuff that Steve Waters team were going through and we used to term it as "Percy's Bits Of Paper"

Ah, I see. Interesting. Re FB2795, surely the answer is in the other thread? Strange As It Seems / This Is No Laughing Matter are the titles. Discogs has a label photo of the former side.
[/quote

Discovered that one title is Safe In My Heart not Safe In My Arms and got a photo of it !!



  7th May 2023, 8:58 PM#13  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
danceband91 wrote:
Turner Layton Columbia FB 2421 is actually titled "Safe In My Heart" not "Safe In My Arms".
There's a picture of it here: https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/turner-layton-safe-in-my-heart-78-columbia-fb2421
So it definitely exists but unfortunately I still can't find a recording of it anywhere.

That makes sense. Thanks for finding it.


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