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| 24th May 2023, 10:47 AM | #1 REPORT | |
 | Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points | I have spent a considerable amount of time checking and re-checking information from every source I could think of and I have come to the point where the listings mentioned are spurious and incorrect....It is just the fact that nobody has them, heard them or seen them that leads me to believe that these entries in the book are wrong....Wrong artist or wrong song title or to a lesser extent wrong catalogue number....I would really be delighted to be wrong and I would love to admit it....See what you think !....I have seen entries in catalogues, promotions, listings etc but NO photographs of discs nor anybody who has them in their collection....Here goes: Goodnight Children Everywhere - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1643 Goodnight Children Everywhere - Issy Bonn HMV BD 797 Goodnight My Beautiful - Beryl Davis Decca F 7333 My Daddy - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1703 Dreaming - Beryl Davis Decca F 7472 If Tears Could Bring You Back - The Organ, The Dance Band & Me Parlophone F 1786 Please tell me I'm wrong with conclusive proof and I will gladly do penance Edited by Mike Wilson1 on 24th May 2023, 4:32 PM |
| 24th May 2023, 2:35 PM | #2 REPORT | |
| danceband91 ● Member since Nov 2020 119 Points | There's a picture of Rex 9710 here, so that definitely exists!: https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/78-rpm-oscar-rabin-band-knees-up-mother-brown-1940 The other side of Parlophone F-1643 (It's A Hap Hap Happy Day) was released on this CD: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123929659781 And the other side of Parlophone F-1786 (I'll Never Make The Same Mistake Again) was released on this LP: https://www.discogs.com/release/9581084 That suggests (although not conclusively) that those two 78s do indeed exist. |
| 24th May 2023, 4:31 PM | #3 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
danceband91 wrote:
There's a picture of Rex 9710 here, so that definitely exists!:
https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/78-rpm-oscar-rabin-band-knees-up-mother-brown-1940 The other side of Parlophone F-1643 (It's A Hap Hap Happy Day) was released on this CD: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123929659781 And the other side of Parlophone F-1786 (I'll Never Make The Same Mistake Again) was released on this LP: https://www.discogs.com/release/9581084 That suggests (although not conclusively) that those two 78s do indeed exist. I got the Oscar Rabin 78 earlier today......I guess it's just that they are so scarce and the fact that I find it hard to believe that if they sold well why nobody has them.....My list is certainly getting shorter by me putting up posts....I'm glad I am wrong as it means I may get them.....Nobody has come up with George Elrick yet !! |
| 29th May 2023, 4:45 PM | #4 REPORT | |
 | mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points | Mike, have you checked label listings for these titles? Agreed that if they sold well they shouldn’t be scarce - but it could have been a period of low sales. Sometimes hit records can be hard to find. Maybe this was more the case before the proliferation of internet sellers? |
| 29th May 2023, 5:25 PM | #5 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike, have you checked label listings for these titles?
Agreed that if they sold well they shouldn’t be scarce - but it could have been a period of low sales. Sometimes hit records can be hard to find. Maybe this was more the case before the proliferation of internet sellers?[/quot I agree but I cannot be too disappointed as I have been able to get over 20 songs ...I'm sorry about all the confusion that I create....I'm not very good at this am I |
| 29th May 2023, 9:32 PM | #6 REPORT | |
| mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points | You often seem to reply within the quoted text… maybe practice makes perfect! :) |
| 1st Jun 2023, 4:29 PM | #7 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points |
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike, have you checked label listings for these titles?
Agreed that if they sold well they shouldn’t be scarce - but it could have been a period of low sales. Sometimes hit records can be hard to find. Maybe this was more the case before the proliferation of internet sellers? We have discussed before some of these tracks / discs and the specific problem of England in 1940 (think about it) |
| 1st Jun 2023, 4:33 PM | #8 REPORT | |
| Pridesale Member since Mar 2013 805 Points |
danceband91 wrote:
There's a picture of Rex 9710 here, so that definitely exists!:
https://www.rootsvinylguide.com/ebay_items/78-rpm-oscar-rabin-band-knees-up-mother-brown-1940 The other side of Parlophone F-1643 (It's A Hap Hap Happy Day) was released on this CD: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123929659781 And the other side of Parlophone F-1786 (I'll Never Make The Same Mistake Again) was released on this LP: https://www.discogs.com/release/9581084 That suggests (although not conclusively) that those two 78s do indeed exist. Thanks for finding them , howeve the artists I think had those tracks on other disc pairings or recordings released in other countries so not necessarily a conclusion to draw. Its frustrating as "The Organ, The Dance Band & Me " is probably one of the most documented combos of releases over the years in net and printed formats (I have a number of compilaition cassettes but they dont have the title Mike is looking for, maybe it was so depressing no one wanted to include it in a compliation of cheerful dance ditties) |
| 10th Sep 2023, 1:06 PM | #9 REPORT | |
| The Cerebellum Member since Dec 2022 3 Points | Really REALLY late reply, and this probably isn't useful since I mentioned it on another thread. Goodnight My Beautiful – Beryl Davis is real. https://www.discogs.com/release/27955560-Beryl-Davis-Goodnight-My-Beautiful I have bought the record and it should be arriving soon |
| 10th Sep 2023, 10:14 PM | #10 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
The Cerebellum wrote:
Really REALLY late reply, and this probably isn't useful since I mentioned it on another thread. Goodnight My Beautiful – Beryl Davis is real. https://www.discogs.com/release/27955560-Beryl-Davis-Goodnight-My-Beautiful
I have bought the record and it should be arriving soon Well done......That is a really really rare record |
| 19th Sep 2023, 7:49 PM | #11 REPORT | |
| The Cerebellum Member since Dec 2022 3 Points | Behold Beryl Davis's Goodnight, My Beautiful enjoy Edited by moderator on 20th Sep 2023, 9:52 AM |
| 19th Sep 2023, 8:04 PM | #12 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
The Cerebellum wrote:
Behold Beryl Davis's Goodnight, My Beautiful
enjoy Lovely to hear that Edited by moderator on 20th Sep 2023, 9:52 AM |
| 20th Sep 2023, 9:53 AM | #13 REPORT | |
 | carryonsidney a happy disposition is an omnious sign.... Member since Feb 2010 1707 Points Moderator | Nice tune, Hope you don't mind but I Modded your posts so we can see the vid here on forum. |
| 20th Sep 2023, 9:16 PM | #14 REPORT | |
| mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points |
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I have spent a considerable amount of time checking and re-checking information from every source I could think of and I have come to the point where the listings mentioned are spurious and incorrect....It is just the fact that nobody has them, heard them or seen them that leads me to believe that these entries in the book are wrong....Wrong artist or wrong song title or to a lesser extent wrong catalogue number....I would really be delighted to be wrong and I would love to admit it....See what you think !....I have seen entries in catalogues, promotions, listings etc but NO photographs of discs nor anybody who has them in their collection....Here goes:
Goodnight Children Everywhere - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1643 Goodnight Children Everywhere - Issy Bonn HMV BD 797 Goodnight My Beautiful - Beryl Davis Decca F 7333 My Daddy - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1703 Dreaming - Beryl Davis Decca F 7472 If Tears Could Bring You Back - The Organ, The Dance Band & Me Parlophone F 1786 Please tell me I'm wrong with conclusive proof and I will gladly do penance It would be nice if you could list the other records which you think don’t exist. There seems to be at least one example by Turner Layton. |
| 20th Sep 2023, 9:45 PM | #15 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I have spent a considerable amount of time checking and re-checking information from every source I could think of and I have come to the point where the listings mentioned are spurious and incorrect....It is just the fact that nobody has them, heard them or seen them that leads me to believe that these entries in the book are wrong....Wrong artist or wrong song title or to a lesser extent wrong catalogue number....I would really be delighted to be wrong and I would love to admit it....See what you think !....I have seen entries in catalogues, promotions, listings etc but NO photographs of discs nor anybody who has them in their collection....Here goes:
Goodnight Children Everywhere - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1643 My Daddy - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1703 Dreaming - Beryl Davis Decca F 7472 If Tears Could Bring You Back - The Organ, The Dance Band & Me Parlophone F 1786 By Candlelight - Turner Layton Columbia FB 2771 It is just that I have NEVER seen these nor any photos of the records at all Please tell me I'm wrong with conclusive proof and I will gladly do penance It would be nice if you could list the other records which you think don’t exist. There seems to be at least one example by Turner Layton. |
| 20th Sep 2023, 9:47 PM | #16 REPORT | |
| Mike Wilson1 Musicologist Member since Dec 2019 26 Points |
mister_tmg wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I have spent a considerable amount of time checking and re-checking information from every source I could think of and I have come to the point where the listings mentioned are spurious and incorrect....It is just the fact that nobody has them, heard them or seen them that leads me to believe that these entries in the book are wrong....Wrong artist or wrong song title or to a lesser extent wrong catalogue number....I would really be delighted to be wrong and I would love to admit it....See what you think !....I have seen entries in catalogues, promotions, listings etc but NO photographs of discs nor anybody who has them in their collection....Here goes:
Goodnight Children Everywhere - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1643 My Daddy - Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1703 Dreaming - Beryl Davis Decca F 7472 If Tears Could Bring You Back - The Organ, The Dance Band & Me Parlophone F 1786 By Candlelight - Turner Layton Columbia FB 2771 It is just that I have NEVER seen these nor any photos of the records at all Please tell me I'm wrong with conclusive proof and I will gladly do penance It would be nice if you could list the other records which you think don’t exist. There seems to be at least one example by Turner Layton. |
| 20th Sep 2023, 10:32 PM | #17 REPORT | |
| mister_tmg Also on 78rpm Member since Apr 2012 1118 Points | Your previous two posts just quote mine… |
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