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  31st Jul 2023, 10:25 PM#1  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
I love collecting 78's.....They take me back to a better time although many would disagree that the 1940's with all its bombs and war could be construed as a better time...A little while ago, I set myself the task of collecting every 78 that was popular from 1940 to 1945, that's right, all the songs that kept the population going throughout World War II....Today I bought my 1000th 78 !!.....Some have been very easy to get, some have been difficult and some have been impossible....Of the first 1000 78's that are included in the Best Sellers Lists I have 972 of them but 28 have beaten me....I have asked, begged and pleaded for members to come up with the missing sides and the list was much bigger a few months ago....All sorts of reasons are applicable as to why I cannot get these records but I am sure that they are out there and that some of our members have them, I don't blame them at all for wanting to hang on to them....I would love to hear them, get an mp3 or find them on a compilation....I would love to send my list to anyone who thinks they may be able to help even if it just the one, its a start.....So HELP WANTED please....Get back to me if I can send you the list of 28 !!!!

Edited by Mike Wilson1 on 17th Aug 2023, 10:24 AM

  12th Aug 2023, 12:47 AM#2  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
Yes, I hear what you are saying about the nostalgia factor.

But surely, if the 78s are now so rare, it begs the question, were they that popular to begin with?


  12th Aug 2023, 11:56 AM#3  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
Yes, I hear what you are saying about the nostalgia factor.

But surely, if the 78s are now so rare, it begs the question, were they that popular to begin with?
..........I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled


  12th Aug 2023, 8:05 PM#4  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
Updated list of some 78's that I would like to hear before I kick the Big Bucket....It is the songs by these artists that I am after so if they are on any compilation that would do...This list I classify as certainly out there, they are all UK releases .....


1…Goodnight Children Everywhere – Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1643
2…Goodnight Children Everywhere – Issy Bonn HMV BD 797
3…Goodnight My Beautiful – Beryl Davis Decca F 7333
4….My Daddy – Phyllis Robins Parlophone F 1703
5….Dreaming – Beryl Davis Decca F 7472
6….If Tears Could Bring You Back – The Organ, The Dance Band & Me Parlophone F 1786
7.....I Hear A Rhapsody – Turner Layton Columbia FB 2666
8.....What Do We Care – Billy Cotton & His Band Rex R 10023
9 …My Sister & I – Royal Air Force Dance Orchestra Decca F 7984
10...Do You Care – Geraldo & His Orchestra Parlophone F 1889
11…By Candlelight – Turner Layton Columbia FB 2771
12…You Are My Sunshine – Billy Cotton & His Band Rex R 10115
13…I Don’t Want To Walk Without You – Joe Loss & His Orchestra HMV BD 5742
14…Drink To Me Only With Thine Eyes – Alvar Lidell HMV B 9276
15…The Lamplighter’s Serenade – Carroll Gibbons & His Orchestra Columbia FB 2831
16.. .You Walk By – Joe Loss & His Orchestra HMV BD 5778
17.. .Love Is A Song – Carroll Gibbons & His Orchestra Columbia FB 2879
18.. .Praise The Lord & Pass The Ammunition Columbia FB 2887
19.. .Daybreak – Turner Layton Columbia FB 2886
20.. .I’m Thinking Tonight Of My Blue Eyes – Jay Wilbur & His Band Rex R 10187
21…Heavenly Music – Turner Layton Columbia FB 2973
22.. .With All My Heart – Monte Rey Columbia FB 2981
23….I’m Sending My Blessings – Turner Layton Columbia FB 3009
24….Don’t Ask Me Why – Joe Loss & His Orchestra HMV BD 5838
25….Thinking About The Wabash – Joe Loss & His Orc. HMV BD 5838 26. ..Wedding Bells – Freddie Hall London L 518
27….Long Ago & Far Away – Turner Layton Columbia FB 3035
28….Someday I’ll Meet You Again – Carroll Gibbons & His Orchestra Columbia FB 3038
29….Spring Will Be A Little Late This Year – Turner Layton Columbia FB 3058
30….Spring Will Be A Little Late This Year – Ambrose & His Orchestra Decca F 8450
31….The First Few Days – Joe Loss & His Orchestra HMV BD 5860
32….Canteen Bounce – Joe Loss & His Orchestra HMV BD 5861
33….Shine On Victory Moon – Carrol Gibbons & His Orchestra Columbia FB 3069
34….Silent Night – Pat McCormac HMV BD 1119
35….It Could Happen To You – Ambrose & His Orchestra Decca F 8488



Edited by Mike Wilson1 on 30th Aug 2023, 4:19 PM

  12th Aug 2023, 9:31 PM#5  REPORT  
Fokeman

I used to have a good memory but now I can't re
Member since May 2011
5096 Points
Moderator
I've just sent you a PM. I think I've found one of your WANTS


  13th Aug 2023, 12:43 AM#6  REPORT  
scrough

No picture 'cos I'm not into 45rpm :(
Member since Jan 2013
3425 Points
Moderator
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.


  13th Aug 2023, 1:08 PM#7  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.
That is where all the records I want have gone !!!


  13th Aug 2023, 1:57 PM#8  REPORT  
danceband91

Member since Nov 2020
119 Points
I have Eric Winstone - The Music Stopped. I'll send across an mp3.
Don & Lou Robertson - Gamblin' Fever is on the archive: here


  14th Aug 2023, 8:39 PM#9  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.

Sad, as one wonders how many rarer records ended up junked this way. Surely people would have been giving up records they were less keen on?

Vera Lynn's We'll Meet Again is said to have been a bestseller, yet is now so scarce that copies change hands for high prices. The White Cliffs of Dover was also a bestseller, yet sells for a lot.

I guess at some point I would want to have recordings of all the UK's sheet music chart hits, which tends to mean a choice of several recordings. Perhaps it may be desirable to find the most popular version of that song, if it can be ascertained. Bearing in mind the number of errors in the 'missing charts' book, I'm wary of using retrospective charts!


  15th Aug 2023, 2:22 AM#10  REPORT  
SeverlyWarpedRecord

Member since Oct 2020
210 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.

Sad, as one wonders how many rarer records ended up junked this way. Surely people would have been giving up records they were less keen on?

Vera Lynn's We'll Meet Again is said to have been a bestseller, yet is now so scarce that copies change hands for high prices. The White Cliffs of Dover was also a bestseller, yet sells for a lot.

I guess at some point I would want to have recordings of all the UK's sheet music chart hits, which tends to mean a choice of several recordings. Perhaps it may be desirable to find the most popular version of that song, if it can be ascertained. Bearing in mind the number of errors in the 'missing charts' book, I'm wary of using retrospective charts!

It’s weird that those Vera Lynn records are hard to find in the UK. I’m in Canada and I’ve seen them both before. My guess is that since those 2 songs were so popular that people traded in their worn copies. That’s probably what happen to the other records on OPs list


  15th Aug 2023, 12:27 PM#11  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
SeverlyWarpedRecord wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.

Sad, as one wonders how many rarer records ended up junked this way. Surely people would have been giving up records they were less keen on?

You are exactly right.....I spent months going through "The Missing Charts" book accumilating a very long list of errors that I sent to the publishers....I now have an adequate working list of records that were actually available with correct titles/artists/catalogue numbers that I am going through.....It's not perfect but workable....Alarm bells ring when there is never a photograph of an actual record despite peoples assurances
Vera Lynn's We'll Meet Again is said to have been a bestseller, yet is now so scarce that copies change hands for high prices. The White Cliffs of Dover was also a bestseller, yet sells for a lot.

I guess at some point I would want to have recordings of all the UK's sheet music chart hits, which tends to mean a choice of several recordings. Perhaps it may be desirable to find the most popular version of that song, if it can be ascertained. Bearing in mind the number of errors in the 'missing charts' book, I'm wary of using retrospective charts!

It’s weird that those Vera Lynn records are hard to find in the UK. I’m in Canada and I’ve seen them both before. My guess is that since those 2 songs were so popular that people traded in their worn copies. That’s probably what happen to the other records on OPs list



  15th Aug 2023, 1:05 PM#12  REPORT  
Mike Wilson1

Musicologist
Member since Dec 2019
26 Points
mister_tmg wrote:
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.

Sad, as one wonders how many rarer records ended up junked this way. Surely people would have been giving up records they were less keen on?

Vera Lynn's We'll Meet Again is said to have been a bestseller, yet is now so scarce that copies change hands for high prices. The White Cliffs of Dover was also a bestseller, yet sells for a lot.

I guess at some point I would want to have recordings of all the UK's sheet music chart hits, which tends to mean a choice of several recordings. Perhaps it may be desirable to find the most popular version of that song, if it can be ascertained. Bearing in mind the number of errors in the 'missing charts' book, I'm wary of using retrospective charts!

You are exactly right.....I spent months going through "The Missing Charts" book accumilating a very long list of errors that I sent to the publishers....I now have an adequate working list of records that were actually available with correct titles/artists/catalogue numbers that I am going through.....It's not perfect but workable....Alarm bells ring when there is never a photograph of an actual record despite peoples assurances


  16th Aug 2023, 12:41 AM#13  REPORT  
mister_tmg

Also on 78rpm
Member since Apr 2012
1118 Points
SeverlyWarpedRecord wrote:
mister_tmg wrote:
scrough wrote:
Mike Wilson1 wrote:
I read an informative report that during 1941-1943 310 record outlets throughout Britain would only allow you to buy a 78 Shellac record if you also brought one in to be recycled
See this Columbia And Parlophone Record Guide for September 1942.

Sad, as one wonders how many rarer records ended up junked this way. Surely people would have been giving up records they were less keen on?

Vera Lynn's We'll Meet Again is said to have been a bestseller, yet is now so scarce that copies change hands for high prices. The White Cliffs of Dover was also a bestseller, yet sells for a lot.

I guess at some point I would want to have recordings of all the UK's sheet music chart hits, which tends to mean a choice of several recordings. Perhaps it may be desirable to find the most popular version of that song, if it can be ascertained. Bearing in mind the number of errors in the 'missing charts' book, I'm wary of using retrospective charts!

It’s weird that those Vera Lynn records are hard to find in the UK. I’m in Canada and I’ve seen them both before. My guess is that since those 2 songs were so popular that people traded in their worn copies. That’s probably what happen to the other records on OPs list

Would those be Canadian issues?


  17th Aug 2023, 2:36 AM#14  REPORT  
SeverlyWarpedRecord

Member since Oct 2020
210 Points
[/quote]Would those be Canadian issues?[/quote]
I’m assuming so but I can’t remember what label they were on. London didn’t start here until 1948 so I’m not sure.
But my point still stands because both those songs were British in origin and were popular enough to cross over to America with soldiers that heard them


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