Vinyl Album - Shirley Collins And Davy Graham - Folk Roots, New Routes - Decca

Vinyl Album

Artist:	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham
Title:	Folk Roots, New Routes
Label:	Decca
Country:	Europe
Catalogue:	379 616-3
Barcode:	6025379616344
Date:	2014
Format:	LP
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	2 Own, 1 Wants
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A1	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Nottamun Town	Trad. Arr. Sharp	10.0 Rate
A2	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Proud Maisrie	Trad. Arr. McColl	10.0 Rate
A3	Shirley Collins	The Cherry Tree (Carol)	Collins	Rate
A4	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Blue Monk	Monk	Rate
A5	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Hares On The Mountain	Traditional	Rate
A6	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Reynardine	Trad. Arr. Hughes	Rate
A7	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Pretty Saro	Graham, Collins	Rate
A8	Davy Graham	Rif Mountain	Graham	Rate
B1	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Jane, Jane	Trad. Arr. Seeger	Rate
B2	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Love Is Pleasin'	Arr. Graham	Rate
B3	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Boll Weevil, Holler	Arr. Lomax	Rate
B4	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Hori Horo	Collins	Rate
B5	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Bad Girl	Trad. Arr. Collins	Rate
B6	Shirley Collins	Lord Greggory	Trad. Arr. Collins	Rate
B7	Davy Graham	Grooveyard	Timmons	Rate
B8	Shirley Collins And Davy Graham	Dearest Dear	Trad. Arr. Sharp	Rate

Notes

Back To Black, 180g vinyl with download voucher.

Limited Edition of 500 individually numbered copies.

Un-laminated (Glossy photo card) Triple Flip-back sleeve.

Red Decca Mono Labels design, with creamy white print.

Album sleeve indicates mono, but this is the stereo mix.

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Fokeman 1st Aug 2018		These two songs go back into the mists of time so have that they are traditional ballads in common, but the stories seem very different. In the past many traditional ballads were given a (Francis James) Child number to identify their story and link similar ballads together. Today we use (Steve) Roud numbers and these two ballads are not deemed to be linked in any way. The wonderful Mainly Norfolk website goes into detail about the lyrics and origins of the songs. Shirley learned "Nottamun Town" from Jean Ritchie of Kentucky after one of the latter's collecting trips in the UK. More details here... It was allocated the Roud No. 1044 "She Moved Through The Fair" was collected in the very early 1900s from Donegal by Padraic Colum and later a more authentic version was collected from Derry with less "touching up" by the poet Colum. She Moved Through The Fair gives more details and indicates that Roud allocated it the Roud No. 861.



Juke Jules SUBS 30th Jul 2018		I was referring to the story that is being told, which is a ghost tale. In this case I presume a young man is trying to find his way to his love (in Nottingham?) but finds himself in another world.



Fokeman 27th Jul 2018		Quote: Nottamun Town seems to be based on the Irish traditional song She Moved Through The Fair Much though I hate to disagree with you JJ, there is no link whatsoever between the two songs Nottamun Town and She Moved Through The Fair. What gave you that idea?



Juke Jules SUBS 5th Jan 2018		Nottamun Town seems to be based on the Irish traditional song She Moved Through The Fair



Magic Marmalade 28th Feb 2017		I think, judging by a couple of Classical Decca records, and especially the Rolling Stones debut, the transition from flips to no flip sleeve took place in 1964. --oops... scrub that... Rolling stones no.2 has a flip, with a 1965 p on the labels... so maybe sometime early in that year ?)



PhilMH 28th Feb 2017		The mono original (Decca LK-4652) was definitely issued no later than 1965, as it was reviewed in the June 1965 Gramophone. No trace of a stereo issue in Gramophone or in the few (1966, 1974, 1975) Decca catalogues that I have.



deepinder cheema 28th Feb 2017		There was an insert with the original issue and the sleeve was not pasted down tabs as far as I have seen, however I would not rule it out as Decca did have more than one 3rd party supplying finished sleeves ( see early CBS for example) However, despite historical deviations it is a handsome and desirable object especially if Decca did this. One historic reissue I am heavily critical of was the Pink Floyd 'See Emily Play' on pink vinyl and wrong pic sleeve which was from the german issue of 1967 which made the whole edifice so wrong.



Magic Marmalade 27th Feb 2017		Review Where to begin with this one?!!!..... .... The album, and the music itself is all but legendary as it is, so doesn't really require a review on that score, ...except to say it's just guitar genius Davy Graham offering acoustic accompaniment to Shirley Collins' authentic folk singing, and occasional instrumentals by Graham, and a couple of solo pieces by Collins. But it's this particular issue that needs some comment, as, perhaps, in the spirit of the best Decca traditions, it's several shades of pissed thinking all at once.... but delightfully so! Firstly, I've got to mention that this issue comes housed in the Mono issue apparel: Red Decca Mono labels (stereo were blue!), and in a sleeve that also indicates Mono - - It ain't mono! ...Ah, but that's not an entirely true statement either... ....As, having listened a few times now to be sure, I am pretty certain the opening track IS mono, but that the rest of the tracks are most definitely stereo (!....?...!!!!!.... ?..........!) And further scrutiny of the labels begins to unpick this oddness... for the patent date given on both labels and sleeve is 1965 - the date of the work itself, but if you look to the perimeter text on the labels, you will see a copyright date (and additional patent date) of 1967. Now, I have not put this in the notes, as I think it needs some confirmation, but I fully suspect that the reason for this, is that the stereo recording mix, is copyrighted fro 1967, whereas the original work (in any mix) was mono - 1965. ...However, I've looked up and down, round the back of the sofa of the internet, and elsewhere all this while, and can not find any original issues in stereo! As far as I know, and can find out, this was only ever released originally in mono. Looking at the back cover photo, which indicates a recording set-up of the two of them across the room from each other, each with their own mics, I should imagine it would not have been that difficult for an engineer to retrospectively separate their two tracks, and make a very good stereo out of it... (as sparsely arranged as it is possible to get... no complicating factors like more band members and instruments in close proximity hammering the whatssits out of their instruments, and bleeding through to the other's mics etc.) So I can only conclude that the opening track was perhaps recorded differently... maybe with just one mic, or that they were so close that the separation was lost. But then there's other wonkiness with this issue: I believe the original came with an insert of some description... and that the first issue was actually released too late to have been sporting any kind of flip-back sleeve at all! - original issues don't have it, and Decca were fairly early in adopting a standardised sleeve construction of the non-flip variety (You'd a'thunk that as this was released by Decca, for the purposes of replicating the original... they'd be more aware of the particulars of their own previous releases - just a trot down to the archive might have spared their blushes?) So it's a might over-Decca'd by some enthusiastic soul at Decca HQ :) (First issue sporting flips then! - I do love them though, so it's a bonus for me... but also, if you are going to put flips on the sleeve... please get it right: The spine edge flap should be UNDER top and bottom flaps - so it doesn't pull free, as photos of this issue on Amazon and Discogs show ....DOH!:) And if you are going to go to the trouble of "replicating" the original to the degree of putting flips on it, why not go the whole hog, and laminate the sleeve front, and use silver print on the labels, instead of white? ....but as I wasn't expecting it to be a limited edition of any kind when I bought it... I'm pleased as punch, to have, a fine (though misguided) effort from Decca, which does mean I have the album at last! --And this pressing does sound great too nevertheless-- 5 people found this review helpful. ✔︎ Helpful Review?

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