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Artist:Peter Tosh
Title:Bush Doctor
Label:  CBS
Country:Unknown Country
Catalogue:EMC 3278
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
A1Peter Tosh(You Gotta Walk) Don't Look BackRate
A2Peter ToshPick Myself UpRate
A3Peter Tosh I'm The ToughestRate
A4Peter ToshSoon ComeRate
A5Peter ToshMoses The ProphetRate
B1Peter ToshBush DoctorRate
B2Peter ToshStand FirmRate
B3Peter ToshDem Ha Fe Get A Beatin'Rate
B4Peter ToshCreationRate


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Description: EMC 3278


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ppint.
22nd Mar 2021
 @philmh sorry if you felt put-upon by my invocation of your awe-inspiring knowledge and memory banks of all record matters over an amazingly wide era, as well as area, casting you (unfairly?) as the (12')('lp') ''vinyl authority''. . .

- it was more in hope, than expectation - ''honest, guv!''

(and it's the anomalous use by cbs of the emi cat#, on a rolling stones label-yellow cbs label, but without the rolling stones label logo, that lacks authoritative explanation (preferably with evidential back-up):)

the best set of circumstances that yr hmbl srppnt. could come up with is that it must be from very soon after columbia (merkia) and cbs (rest of the world) picked up the global distribution deal with the rolling stones label, needing to keep continuity of supply to record retailers and wholesalers going, but lacking little details like the official rolling stones label logo images - or perhaps the rights to use this were a separate licence? (the lips logo is definitely ™ed in its own right...) - who'm happy enough with its being flagged uk...

- and so they used their own cbs logo, to which they definitely held the rights(!), on ''rolling stones label yellow'' paper, which would be copyright-free (unlike cadbury's dairy milk blue™), and kept the emi cat# because they didn't have a number range set aside reserved for rolling stones label cun- prefixed cat#s, and didn't need to change it, as ''3278'' didn't conflict with any other cbs group cat# or reserved range of cat#s. a quick kludge - but a kludge that worked, and could be used straight away.

- so it looks most likely; leastways, it does to this ppint.°

° - others may differ. . .
 

 
ajtharp
22nd Mar 2021
 I have changed this entry's country of origin to "Unknown" since it cannot be determined at this time.

Meanwhile, using info from Discogs, I have entered a new UK entry into the database.
 

 
PhilMH
22nd Mar 2021
 Sorry ppint, I don't know about CBS' manufacturing arrangements for West Africa, only Decca's (made in England for sale in Ghana, Nigeria, and ???). I haven't been able to pin down any more EMI releases on CBS, but I still feel that this is Middle East or Africa, definitely not UK, and released during the time that EMI had the international rights to Rolling Stones Records. (It may not be Israel at all - looking at a small sample of Israeli CBS releases in Discogs, they all seem to have either the all-orange label or the later sunburst one, with the company name Acum on them, so I think I probably misremembered).
 

 
ppint.
20th Mar 2021
 @philmh: hi phil; was cbs' west african stock manufactured locally (presumably in nigeria), rather than imported from the netherlands by then?

- cbs' distribution computer system could evidently cope with alpha-prefixed cat#s, as it was already coping, or had coped, with the embassy and epic label cat#s (i suspect by ignoring the alpha-prefixes, as the numerical main parts were unique);

- i'd've expected them to've assigned cbs group-sized numerical format cat#s to rolling stones records if they'd licenced the rights to them: but the wording i've seen is that they took over the label's world distribution (outside of america, of course, where columbia took over distribution), not that they licensed the world rights.

- so it seems possible cbs' various warehouses had the entire existing back catalogue of emi's rolling stones records stock dumped on them almost immediately upon signing the distribution contract, if emi's was also a distribution contract rather than a licensing agreement; and cbs manglement decided it would be simplest and quickest - and probably cheapest - to just load emi's cat#s onto their computer system's database (hopefully after checking there was no clash of numerical parts).
 

 
PhilMH
18th Mar 2021
 There's a comment on the Discogs entry's submission history that it isn't a UK release, but probably Nigeria, although I have a vague recollection of EMI going through CBS in Israel - can't remember which record(s), however.
 

 
ppint.
18th Mar 2021
 in which case the date is wrong, as columbia (in the states) and cbs (in the rest of the world, more-or-less) didn't get the contract for distributing rolling stones records until after the contract with emi - whose cat# this is - determined, ~end(?) 1984.
columbia/cbs' formal contract seems to've run 1986-1991, which would place this late 1984 at the very earliest, but before 1986: most likely 1985.

the november 1978 uk release was from early on in the run of the emi contract, which'll likely be why it was given the emc-3nnn series cat#, before they'd set up the cun- prefixed cat# series for the label.

Mod Edit: Release date removed.
 

 
ajtharp
17th Mar 2021
 That's not what this shows:

https://www.discogs.com/Peter-Tosh-Bush-Doctor/release/12275233
 

 
ppint.
17th Mar 2021
 assignment of the cbs label is wrong: this is an emi group lp series catalogue number

emi distributed rolling stones records 1978-1984, and this was a rolling stones records lp.

emi gave emc 3000 series cat#s to the first lps on other newly-licenced labels before assigning uniquely-prefixed cat# series to these labels in this period - e.g. carrère.
 


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Linked Releases

USA - Rolling Stones - 1978

Germany - Rolling Stones - 1978

Netherlands - Rolling Stones - 1978

Sweden - Rolling Stones - 1978

UK - Rolling Stones - 1978

Italy - EMI - 1987


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