@ goodbear66; The cover change came about after a dust-up with the Maxwell Armfield estate over the use of the mural on the front. While things were getting ironed out, this black, alternate cover was used. Seemingly, it only affected UK releases, as the rest of the world kept using the Armfield artwork. I believe Mick Fleetwood owns it now.
VS's video skips just before the 4:00 mark and cuts off the last 1:36.
I don't know why but, the last 21 seconds of what's on this video has been stuck in my head for the past 2 years, or better!!
So has, "Dance Of The Hours" by Spike Jones and, "Hello Muddah, Hello Faddah" by Allen Sherman.
Added alternative cover images. These are the redesigned subsequent covers of the Reissue K 44103 but were presumably tried out on later runs of the original release RSLP 9000 as evidenced on the cover scans. (Album in the sleeve is the tri-colour Steamboat label with corresponding Cat. No).
Yeah, I record direct to CD, then rip in to hard drive from that... I do have Audacity, which can do all that jazz, but I prefer to the least digital work that I can. Especially as even if I remedied the audio file on computer, I'd still have the knowledge that I have a duff disc nagging at me...
So I try to fix 'em up as best I can.
Not only is it deeply satisfying to score these little victories, there is something of the abandoned scrawny dog in the rescue centre about an abused or neglected disc that gets me.. sad little unloved things, forgotten in the bins and left to rot, so I take them home, take care of them, and love them more than they would otherwise be.
Oddly, the tattier it is, the more character it seems to have for me... I've seen a few Rubber Souls around complete and in pretty good nick, and at reasonable prices... but mine has seen some action, and so has a greater air of authenticity for me (And I only got it for a quid, and had the joy of discovering it unexpectedly in the charity bin).
(I still can't get my head around an absolutely mint copy of a Beatles album, say turning up for sale still in the shrink wrap... you're telling me that all these years the greatest teen phenomenon ever preserved a record unplayed by anyone?)
I like to see some age on the thing, that's a record of it's history as much as the music itself I think.
G'day Magic Marmalade! Question: Do you record your tracks into MP3 Audio files? If you do, then you can correct the skip-back....skip-back....skip-back effect. Record your track, and where it starts to skip back, apply light finger pressure on the pickup head to help it past the sticking point(s). At the end of the recording, when the waveform comes up on your screen, you can locate and edit out the skip-back....skip-back....skip-back effect. I think my question is now redundant by reading your 11/3/2015 comments(hope you didn't dampen your pillow too much).
Well I'll be blowed Biggie! (That doesn't sound right to me)...
I have a sleeveless copy of The Beatles: Rubber Soul that I pulled out of a charity bin last year, but was scratched within an inch of it's life,and having attempted to play it through both sides to get an idea of where all the mischief was, I counted 57jumps on side 1, and 23 on side two (and a sticky repeat in What Goes On),
I tried my water pulling technique to get the gunge out of the grooves first, and got this down to about 20 on side 1, and a dozen or so on side B (As well as cleaning up the Audio, which would sound great - if not for all the bloomin' jumps! - ) so just the scratches remaining, and then I did the fridge thing, but it didn't seem to do much this time, as I think older vinyl tends to be more inflexible, and more rigid... "set" is probably the best term, you know, less elastic...
...Anyway, I tried your idea, and ran the entire record backwards without power, and this seemed to punch out the broken groove walls, back to where they should be, as well as cutting a little deeper into the bottom of the groove, so the stylus had a better line to follow when played the right way (I could hear the little crackles of the stylus as it ran through a scratch)...
It worked!
I now have only three jumps on the record - one on side1, and two in that Ringo song on side 2... so I'll persist until it complies.
Ahhh Marmalade... the Fridge Method aye! That's Science, mate. Science! I'll give it a go ;-) I also bought recently that yellow Spin Clean US record washer kit. It's expensive for what it is, and it's totally manual, but damn those records sound great afterwards. I never realised there was so much dirt lurking there in the grooves...
Thanks Biggie... I've been trying your method this morning on my Rolling Stones Debut album (Mine has Mona labels -woooooooo), which has the tiniest of dimples in the track: I Need You Baby/Mona (Wouldn't you know it would be that one!), which causes it to jump back and keep repeating: "...I said Hey...- I said Hey...- I said Hey... -etc.".
The rest of the album plays great, but like this, I don't want to record it until it goes all the way through.
...and as I say, I tried you're method a few times, but this microscopic dent is having none of it at the moment. I will persist though
(I've got an idea concerning the expansion and contraction of vinyl under varying temperature conditions I'm going to try (Not on the stones Album intially!) - as I had some success removing a stubborn particle of dirt in a groove on a Beatles single that just would not go, by putting it in the fridge for ten minutes - the groove walls contracted a fraction of a hair, and Bob's yer uncle, one quick wipe and it went - I was surprised it worked myself!)
Biff:
Which issue of the King Crimson album is the one you like (Cat No. etc.)?
...cause while I might not be able to afford the original, it may be cheaper, as well as better, to see if I can get that one.
Hey Marm just backtracking to your vinyl-jump cure: I've had many a problem like you describe - even with new records! I bought a Damned Live Shepperton 1980 on Big Beat new from Our Price in the 80s and it bloomin' hopped on the first grooves. Older 2nd hand records normally have some kind of problem, especially if you're really scraping the bowels of the bargain basement barrels and boxes.
Solution: Like your groove-recutting technique, I wait until the jump happens, then I put the turntable's speed in neutral (or turn the record deck off, in layman's terms) and gently turn the record backwards (i.e. in a reverse-play direction -with the stylus still on the vinyl), until I get the needle past where the jump starts. Then I check it plays ok, forwards. If not, repeat the process (I've never had to coax the arm with a little gentle persuasion or weight).
9 times out of 10 it works, as if the groove re-cuts itself. And who knows, with a bit of luck, you might get some sort of satanic message thrown into the bargain as well :-D
However, there's always an exception to the rule: In my case a lovely MFP Fire Brigade LP by The Move - Someone must have been using it for dagger-throwing practice...
Mind you, there was a kind of "sweet spot", for some albums, which were directly transferred over to CD as is, but later "remastering" washed out the sound, like with the Genesis albums... a lot of my definitves are pretty weak, but I've an early Canadian Trespass that's got none of these new toys at work on it, so has much more guts.
I think it can be a virtue or a vice, having the remastering done when new technology permits, as long as a whizz-kid doesn't get carried away with banks of knobs and dials, and just cleans the thing up, it can be a benefit (Peter Gabriel's US, is awful both as the original CD and it's original Vinyl equivalent, and I'll be happy to get a re-master of that.
So not as good as this? (I was tempted by the "new" box).
While I haven't heard the other one, so can't compare... this sounds amazing... properly done, full bodied, crisp, clear, and broad stereo that filled the room the way't ought.
I'm so happy... I now have a fully playing copy of this.
While it would be misleading to say that I've repaired the gouge, I have overcome it somewhat.
This album has been nagging at me because the vinyl is an immaculate A-1, B-1 pressing... (but for the canyon inscribed in it), and I so desperately wanted it to play cleanly, that I hadn't played any of the other tracks on the album until I could get past this abomination which is at the end of the first track.
I tried weighting the stylus, but his caused it to jump further in than without it... I reason this is because the extra weight caused the stylus to hit the groove wall breach with even greater force, and once it jumped, I'd just added extra momentum.
So I tried just resting my finger on top of it as it went round, so it couldn't come completely out of the groove, regardless of the impact... and this worked!
I tried it again after without the pressure, and it seemed to jump less than it did originally, so I repeated the process a further 6 times, gradually knocking off the sharper edges of the breach, and training the groove (Probably stuffed my stylus a bit, but worth the effort - I can get a new one).
After this, the record plays straight through without any extra pressure or weight required...
And listened to the whole album completely through. There's still a slight pop when it hits the scratch, but nothing major, and the album is brilliant (And excellently recorded by the producer/engineer - Sounds incredible!).
... and I know how it is, for this happened to me too, several times, when playing perfect looking vinyl ... and suddenly the needle jumps or gets stuck (more often the latter) ... you feel brought down from olympic spheres to the base world of material deficiencies.
Tried copying this to CD today, and although the sleeve is a little worn, was very pleased to see the vinyl was pristine... I mean, not a hair out of place on it... or so it seemed.
Just over the end of the first track, and the beginning of the second, there is one solitary crescent shaped scratch arcing so that the needle is pulled inward to jump several grooves in one go.... I am gutted.
It's a lovely slice of vinyl too, really thick, shiny, and solid, and from what I could hear, some great music on it.
And the scratch is more of a gouge, easily one full millimetre wide, and as deep.
I could of course, just record the rest of the album and acquire those two tracks elsewhere, but it has ruined the whole experience for me now!
...going to my room to cry into my pillow now, and don't even want to look at this again till I've figured a long overdue way to properly repair vinyl!