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Artist:David Bowie
Title:The Man Who Sold The World
Label:  Mercury
Country:USA
Catalogue:SR-61325
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Format:Bootleg / Repro
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Community: 8 Own
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TrackArtistTitleComposerRating
A1David BowieThe Width Of A CircleDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
A2David BowieAll The Mad MenDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
A3David BowieBlack Country RockDavid Bowie8.0  Rate
A4David BowieAfter AllDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
B1David BowieRunning Gun BluesDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
B2David BowieSaviour MachineDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
B3David BowieShe Shook Me ColdDavid Bowie4.0  Rate
B4David BowieThe Man Who Sold The WorldDavid Bowie8.0  Rate
B5David BowieThe SupermenDavid Bowie4.0  Rate


Notes

Produced by Tony Visconti.

Matrix (hand-scratched):
SR 61325-A-M2 PR
SR 61325-B-M1 PR
Matt single sleeve with softer, paler image quality.

Official isuue Nov. 1970

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Magic Marmalade
15th Jul 2021
 Have just refreshed David bowie vinyl discography, as far as pseudonyms are concerned...

(Now includes Davy / Davie Jones and Lower Third / King Bees... and Bing :)

... So does this one need changing to bootleg?

(Or is it official reproduction? - that format designation in vinyl: Bootleg / Repro is not very helpful is it?)
 

 
6338041
1st Nov 2017
 Responding to below comment:

Me? The jury is still out but
(1) why would a counterfeiter, seeking to replicate something, move the positioning of the text-bubble on the back?
(2) but hang on, why would Mercury have made an amended version with this change?


It is unknown how the counterfeit rear cover was prepared - if it was a single scan or photograph then there would be no reason for the text bubble (oh by jingo) to be moved. If it was prepared from a couple of parts put together (for whatever reason), then the shift would occur from either oversight or necessity. In any event, the black outline definition is severely degraded, indicating that it is a copy of a printed edition, rather than artwork separations. Side by side this is unmissable.

That the color is solid blocked (as it's a cartoon), rather than continuous toning (like a photograph), works in the counterfeit's favour - it is far easier to reproduce a solid block of color
than a scanned four color print. The moire effect, and/or the printer's dots would show up.


(3) would Mercury have issued a version with a skip?
(4) but hang on, it's not unheard of for official records to be issued with a skip either (and then maybe recalled... or not...)


Early counterfeits do not skip. They are noisy, do not have a silent background (like the official pressing has) and are taken from an inferior source. This is evident when played one after the other. As more were pressed, the plates became worn, to the extent that a skip is heard on "All the Madmen".


PS. do you have a link to the comment you referred to?
 

 
kokodog
24th Oct 2017
 In a Facebook discussion today, Marshall Jarman (Bowie afficianado) says "It's now 45 years and I've still not seen any evidence of a counterfeit." He casts doubt on the reliability of some sites:
"... who has written these sites ? ... what is their authority ? ... are they written by someone in the business with actual knowledge ... or a so-called "opinion" from a plumber or dentist. So-called "opinions" are usually wrong, facts are never wrong. Unfortunately, when I query provenance, people tend to get upset."

Sites in question:
http://www.bowie-collection.de/70_74.htm
http://www.illustrated-db-discography.nl/Counter.htm

Me? The jury is still out but
(1) why would a counterfeiter, seeking to replicate something, move the positioning of the text-bubble on the back?
(2) but hang on, why would Mercury have made an amended version with this change?
(3) would Mercury have issued a version with a skip?
(4) but hang on, it's not unheard of for official records to be issued with a skip either (and then maybe recalled... or not...)

Life, eh?
 

 
BEATLEJOHN
15th May 2017
 Another way to tell a boot from the real thing (if it's sealed) is the space between Marilyn's arm and the capped man finger points has a green tinge..whereas it's bright yellow like the rest of the background on the real article....(all boots have a "cut-out" mark, but the real Lp was "cut-out" also)....John
 

 
robozuc
11th Jan 2016
 Thanks to the correction request by member "cmcintyre" and in this sad day (David R.I.P.), I take the opportunity to do a little clarity about this record:

One of the most common counterfeits and not always obvious to the naked eye. Once placed alongside an official version the differences are more apparent but it's no wonder these are often sold by reputable dealers as authentic.
The identifiers:
1) softer, paler image quality
2) a hand scratched matrix
3) wider run out areas
4) on back cover, spacing of the "Oh by Jingo" cartoon and the lyrics directly above it (official) more distant (repro).

It's said that scratched matrix copies have circulated since 1971, giving rise to the theory that the counterfeit is in fact a legitimate pressing. But for this particular pressing, the most conclusive evidence is right there on the vinyl itself. It is sourced from a noisy copy of the record (the additional surface noise is clearly heard in the lead in and run out areas), and there is a skip in All The Madmen.

Further variations of this LP with scratched matrices are known to exist without the audio flaws found on this pressing. However, they share identical matrix numbers to the genuine pressing with no stamper inscriptions to differentiate them which is counter to standard practice. In addition, the audio is of lesser quality than the original stamped matrix copies with tape damage evident. Until conclusive evidence is presented that Mercury Records pressed copies with hand-etched matrices, buyer discretion is advised.

(thanks to info from: The Illustrated db Discography Forums by Matt Dornan.

And thanks to "cmcintyre" who raised the issue.
 

 
theclarkness
30th Aug 2014
 This was a heavily bootlegged LP sold as cut outs in the mid 70's, note there are scratches around where the paper label meets the vinyl possibly to hide copied matrix numbers??
 


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Linked Releases

USA - Mercury - 1970

Australia - Mercury - 1971

UK - Mercury - 1971

Canada - RCA Victor - 1972

Greece - RCA International - 1972

UK - RCA Victor - 1972

USA - RCA Victor - 1972

Australia - RCA Victor - 1973

Italy - RCA Victor - 1973

Yugoslavia - RCA Victor - 1973

UK - RCA International - 1983

UK - EMI - 1990

USA - Ryko Analogue - 1990

Europe - Parlophone - 2016

International - Parlophone - 2016

USA - Parlophone - 2020


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