12" Singles - Comments / Reviews by Lee Wrecker

12" Singles - Comments / Reviews by Lee Wrecker

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Lee Wrecker 2nd Dec 2024		12" Single Soft Cell - Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go (1981)	Hello LD, thanks for sorting this entry out and taking on board my suggestions. Thanks also for taking the time to scan and add the labels from the original 1981 release. The only thing we are missing is a 1981 label with Sire written to the right of the logo rather than underneath and then this entry will be complete. So, if anyone has the 1981 issue with that slight label variation it would be great to add it here and finish this one off.
Lee Wrecker 30th Nov 2024		12" Single Soft Cell - Tainted Love/Where Did Our Love Go (1981)	All of my supplied images here are of the 1989 repress of this record. LaurenceD's back cover with no bar code would have been a 1981 release and should be moved in front of my "89 back cover. The label on LaurenceD's copy would also differ slightly too. So LaurenceD if you could scan your labels we could add them to this entry as 1981 labels. There were two types of '81 issue labels (Jacksonville, Specialty) and the Sire logo is slightly different in each pressing as well different again to this '89 issue. So, I think we should shuffle the images here to match the chronology and wait for the other labels to come in. Plenty of users on here own this one so I think the labels for '81 copies should be easy enough to find.
Lee Wrecker 25th Nov 2024		12" Single Kimberley Rew - The Bible Of Bop (1984)	No Magic it's a 12" 45 RPM single, mini-album and album. Take your pick!? Was it actually released as a single? I don't know but it featured as "a contemporary review in Sounds magazine's "Singles of the Week"" and another music rag according to the Wikipedia. The Bible of Bop is in itself a compilation of three previously released 7" singles so take yer pick. Later CD reissues were packaged with a few extra tracks and released as an album. Ticks all the boxes for everything. Personally, though my preference would be to leave it here - it's a 12", it's around 20 mins long and plays at 45 RPM. Is that enough?
Lee Wrecker 10th Nov 2024		12" Single Trio - Da Da Da I Don't Love You You Don't Love Me Aha Aha Aha (1982)	This one seems to have been released with different tracks in nearly country on earth. We have three copies on the site and none have the same track list but if you look further afield the trend continues. Quite unique.
Lee Wrecker 10th Nov 2024		12" Single The Flying Lizards - Money (1979)	No UK original of this one up yet? I have linked this Australian edition to the USA release which pleasingly copies the original UK release artwork. In Australia, however, we get this crass corporate TV network label version smartly packaged in a 12" Disco 45 sleeve (image supplied). "Money" indeed. Having said that I must concede that pressing is top notch and sounds fantastic.
Lee Wrecker 15th Dec 2022		12" Single The Specials - Dub Mixes (2020)	All Record Store Day releases are international aren't they? I thought we'd gone through this before? On the label Plangent Visions Music Ltd. are listed but were apparently dissolved in 2019 but nevertheless they are/were a wholly-owned subsidiary of BMG Rights Management (UK) which in turn is owned by Bertelsmann AG an international media company operating in more than 50 countries. BMG Rights Management, which includes BMG Rights Management (UK), is the successor of the original Bertelsmann Music Group, was founded shortly after Sony bought the original BMG’s recorded-music assets and Universal Music bought the original BMG’s publishing assets. Nearly everything is international these days and anything or at least 99% of of anything on BMG certainly is.
Lee Wrecker 28th Oct 2022		12" Single Adele - Ring My Bell (Radio Mix) (1991)	By height or hair colour are my preferences for separating Adele's, Magic. We could try "the really famous Adele from London" and "the not so famous Adele from who knows where?" For Arlene's I go by shirt colour and Jolene's it's the name of the men they've taken. I hope this helps, it can be a tricky business.
Lee Wrecker 18th Aug 2022		12" Single Sandie Shaw - Hand In Glove (2022)	All record store releases are international and available worldwide just look at their website to confirm this. Robert you can edit a circle with paint.net (a free program) on a home computer if you are just using a phone I don't know how it's done maybe someone else knows how to do that?
Lee Wrecker 20th Dec 2021		12" Single Blondie - Heart Of Glass (Long Version) (1978)	I'm surprised this is not on the site yet but there you are. Came to my house in a crate of mouldy old 70's crap, the cover's pretty beat up like Iggy Pop but the record is is in top notch condition.
Lee Wrecker 12th Sep 2021		12" Single King Kurt - Zulu Beat (1982)	Already listed on the site here Elmore. These two need to be merged.
Lee Wrecker 30th Aug 2021		12" Single Yoko Ono - Yoko Ono (1985)	1985 according to the label and other sites. I did wonder why it wasn't on Geffen records.
Lee Wrecker 9th Jun 2021		12" Single The Specials - Ghost Town (Extended Version) (2021)	Current practise on the site is that it is not always best to put what's on the label. For instance both the Music On Vinyl and Simply Vinyl catalogues are listed as being released on those labels rather than the facsimile labels that appear on the actual products. Similarly, the modern Rhino catalogue has used facsimile labels since around 2007 and these are all listed as Rhino releases. This particular Specials release however bears more in common with this 2014 Parlophone re-issue of Syd Barrett's "The Madcap Laughs". Our site preference for listing labels from boutique to major works well for products made in the last century but is not always a good fit after that.
Lee Wrecker 8th Jun 2021		12" Single The Specials - Ghost Town (Extended Version) (2021)	Mission accepted Magic and a here we go! Well firstly Chrysalis like 2 Tone is also a facsimile label or imprint owned by BMG and has no current office or address. Secondly, in reference to Drawlbag's claim that Chrysalis is a UK only label well Chrysalis always was an international label and has always released product globally. A quick look at the Jethro Tull catalogue will show that from about 1974 on, after the Island /Reprise phase the Chrysalis label was releasing records all over the world. However, in reality BMG is the real label here as this record was actually made and distributed by BMG. All of the major music corporations Warner, Universal, BMG and Sony now control about 75% of all the music ever published and all of the labels the music was originally attributed to. So, apart from the need to appeal to the retro sensibilities of the marketplace the majors could technically release 75% of all available global music product under their own label name's. They don't but they could. All of the majors also have online outlets across the world where most of their catalogue (if not all) is available direct to consumers across the world. In countries like Australia most releases are also available in retail outlets across the country and sold as local releases not imports. This means nearly everything is international as, on this site, we use the intended marketplace rather place of manufacture as the main criteria to determine country of release. Unfortunately, this creates problems for our site as it is impossible to determine these facts from actually looking at a record or CD. We can't know what markets the release was intended for or what the real label is by looking at the product. Those days are gone and things are a little more complicated these days. However, this is still an international release that was released internationally through BMG using the Chrysalis label that they own and further utilising the 2 Tone Records imprint to appeal to the market and make it look like a similar product to the original release. The real cat# is of course the same as the barcode 5060516096787 which is common BMG practise. The rest is smoke and mirrors. So the reality is the big four music corporations produce music for the global market market and use their networks to distribute products across the world. So, whether the product is made in the USA or EU the intention of the majors is to distribute that product globally. Japan however is a different story and still has a major national market (due to the unique rights situation there) and also produces some international product. I still think this record is international due to the reasons outlined above. It is listed on Amazon Australia and the manufacturer is wrongly listed as ADA UK. This is the same as the other link I provided but the Alternative Distribution Alliance (ADA UK) is the distribution company for the catalogs of most of the labels owned by BMG Rights Management worldwide. So Magic, that's a long way of saying that this same record is available in Australia as a local release and you now have two listings to prove that this is the case and the wrong listing of label on both sites as ADA UK has now been explained. The label though is like everything these days and a very complicated web to untangle given the way the majors tend to present product in replica form regardless of who is actually really making it. I admire Rhino for being upfront about this aspect of their business and clearly marking their products with logos and giving them unique Rhino cat#s that confirms the item is their product. Others like to copy everything on the original artwork including old cat#s which makes some items seem more like a re-issue rather than a completely new re-make by a different label or owner of the copyright. There is a difference you know. Anyway, have you got enough to go on now, Magic? Too much? Yes, it is all a bit too much isn't it I think I'll have a little Nana nap now. If you need more clarification just ask and I'll delve further into labyrinth in search of truth and maybe some biscuits.
Lee Wrecker 7th Jun 2021		12" Single The Specials - Ghost Town (Extended Version) (2021)	Paul Vinyl, thank you for referring me to my former self to sort me out on this one. I think it's fair to say that 2 Tone label exists as an imprint in the Chrysalis stable even if they don't have an office or postal address. So, on those grounds Magic it's back to 2 Tone on this one by consensus. Hang on I'll see what the guy on the other page thinks ... no, all okay according to him too. The linked site in my earlier comment does say the label is ADA UK but I'm sure that is a mistake as the picture is certainly of this single. More likely it may be the supplier to the store than the label. Now what do we do with the Rhino/Elektra/Sire/Atco/Atlantic/Reprise do I need to correct this, this and this or are they okay? What about this one one a triple whammy Urghhh! facsimile labels are a nightmare.
Lee Wrecker 5th Jun 2021		12" Single The Specials - Ghost Town (Extended Version) (2021)	Apparently released in Australia two days earlier on the 04/06/21. So this is an international release. Shall we make it international? The 2 Tone label is defunct (has been since the mid 80's) and really only exists as a facsimile label that Chrysalis uses on relevant releases such as this. The label should be changed to Chrysalis / 2 Tone in my view because the 2 Tone label here is used as a facsimile to replicate the original release rather than indicate the actual label which is Chrysalis in this case. So as this is really a Chrysalis release it is not able to be classified as a UK independent label like it could if it were a genuine 2 Tone release. Emoticon of a a crazy arsed loon banging their head against a wall goes here.
Lee Wrecker 23rd Mar 2021		12" Single Joy Division - Atmosphere (2020)	This was released in Australia on Warner's official Australian (see link) site so it should be international. It's sold out now but it was released here and was also widely available in the USA too. All of them the identical same release. Could we add "global distribution" to the choices of country i.e. EU with global distribution as well as having the plain EU choice. If we added this and did the same for the USA and Japan we could possibly cover nearly all of the problems associated with making products international and still keep track of cataloguing data in an orderly way. It seems so simple but might just work.
Lee Wrecker 17th Feb 2021		12" Single Crass - Normal Never Was 3 (2020)	The crass cultural appropriation of the word "Indian" was deemed to be the problem. Now, just what are the cultural connotations of the term "rough trade" in terms of class?
Lee Wrecker 5th Jan 2021		12" Single Sex Pistols - Anarchy In The U.K. (1977)	Valuation two bob. I sold it years ago but it was a good pressing and I'm surprised it's still only worth buttons.
Lee Wrecker 13th Dec 2020		12" Single The Madness - I Pronounce You (1988)	If the credits weren't enough of clue looky here young Magicman and learn the answer. [YouTube Video]
Lee Wrecker 13th Dec 2020		12" Single Barry Adamson - What It Means (1998)	Promo sticker obscures the barcode and it is not moving easily so there is a barcode but it will remain unknown until someone uploads a clean back cover. Searched the net to see if I could find the barcode but found nothing so that's the best I can do for now.
Lee Wrecker 9th Sep 2020		12" Single The Manish Boys - The Manish Boys (1982)	According to the other site this is a 1985 re-issue of the See For Miles 10" CYM 1 (linked below) and even that was a re-issue of the 1979 EMI 7"EP EMI 2925.
Lee Wrecker 29th Apr 2020		12" Single Ultravox - Slow Motion (1978)	60 Pounds? Tell yer what I'll give you fiver for it. That's what it goes for here. Has this ever sold at the listed price?
Lee Wrecker 29th Apr 2020		12" Single Ultravox - Quiet Men (Full Version) (1978)	Copies of this single can be picked up for buttons. This single is valued at least 500% over the odds. I'd be keen to know if this has ever sold at the price we have it listed as. Hmmm... what'd I do with them rose tinted glasses.
Lee Wrecker 11th Feb 2020		12" Single The Cramps - Gravest Hits (1979)	This is already listed on the site here but that listing has no scans. MICKDOOM67 has done a great job here with the scans but the other listing has the composer credits more accurately entered according to site specs. A merger is required MODS as there are two owners listed on the other entry. I'll send a correction so it gets sorted out and all owners of this are on the same entry.
Lee Wrecker 3rd Jul 2019		12" Single The Bodysnatchers - 1979-2019 40th Birthday Serie (2019)	Get Tee EFFFF! I saw this and went I'm getting one of them but no. Well done to pick this up MAGIC-LORD the Peel sessions are great.
Lee Wrecker 30th Mar 2019		12" Single Blondie - Sunday Girl (1979)	The track B1 is copyrighted 1979 on the label (image 221116) so it is definitely a 1979 release and not 1978 as listed here. Discogs lists this as a 1979 release.
Lee Wrecker 11th Dec 2018		12" Single London - Summer Of Love (1977)	Guitarist Colin (Dave) Wight became an academic and was appointed Professor of International Relations at the University of Sydney. The drummer Moss went on to the Damned and then Culture Club. Steve Voice went on to The Original Vampires and Riff Regan became a comedy writer. So, there is life after punk!
Lee Wrecker 24th Oct 2018		12" Single The Special AKA - Nelson Mandela (Extended Version) (1984)	Not much of and extended mix being only 27 seconds longer than the 7" single version.
Lee Wrecker 10th Aug 2018		12" Single The Alarm - The Stand (1983)	I believe Folker is right and this should be listed as a 12" Single rather than an LP. I have previously uploaded a Fleshtones release on the same label as a 12" Single. These 33rpm 12" EPs are hard to place as they have more than than four tracks but are not actually mini-albums that were also popular at the time. So, no wonder that there are duplicate entries across 45worlds Vinyl Albums and 12" Singles these are hard to place and fall in between the cracks of the criteria for both parts of the site. Should they all be listed as both Vinyl Albums and 12" Singles? Or should we list them as one or the other? My preference is that they should be listed here and not appear in the Vinyl Albums section at all. However, the ILP (Illegal LP) prefix on the Cat# indicates that it is indeed an album. This is a tricky one, MODS! HELP!
Lee Wrecker 14th Jul 2018		12" Single John Foxx - Dancing Like A Gun (1981)	The date here is 1989 for some reason. The linked Australian (primary) release came out in 1981 and the labels here of this UK issue also indicate 1981. The other site also has this one listed as 1981 - correction sent.

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