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BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band	Added scans of later Gold-inlay series (dating from 1972 until 1986): 1 cassette, 1 inlay. Tracks 1-7 make up Side 1. Tracks 8-13 form Side 2. EMI "Gold issue" inner, without barcode; without "G&L" printer identification on inner inlay (earlier issues had this). The gold-colour printing is of the "lighter" variety, suggesting also a later issue than the earlier "metallic gold" inlays. White cassette shell with blue ink. Blue cassette ink and lighter gold inner suggest a release date of between 1976-1982. (Cassette bought in 1981, in the great, long-lost Rival Records record shop in Bath, Avon, just after John Lennon's assassination in December 1980).
BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Album The Orb - U.F.Orb	Apologies for cassette's condition - I found this in my pocket the day after an all-nighter in Finsbury Park, circa 1993. I have no recollection of how it got there, but I like to think that I (unconsciously) "rescued" this from an uncertain future of neglect, in a grubby un-aired-out bedsit, above a betting shop.
BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Single The Presidents Of The United States Of America - Lump / Wake Up	Hey nboldock - I was totally in the dark about the amazing properties of lighter fluid! Thanks - I'll keep 'em comin' sure enough ;-) Bigs
BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Single The Presidents Of The United States Of America - Lump / Wake Up	Apologies for the inclusion of the 50p Greenwich & Bexley Cottage Hospice price sticker; it couldn’t be removed without taking a significant portion of the front cover with it. Apologies too for the quality of this item; it looks as if it's been rotting away on somebody's dashboard, or in somebody's glove compartment. However, for the sake of good order, it's been included here purely for historical purposes...
BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Abbey Road	Added this entry of the 1977-1982-period “light-brown gold colour” inlay and “white shell-blue ink” cassette, in order to differentiate this issue from the 1987 (and later) “correct-track-order” issues. There were earlier “white-inlay issues” pre-dating this - hence no concrete “notes”. 1 cassette, white cassette shell, printed with blue ink. Apple logo. Dolby B Double-D logo. Side 2 peters out on the track listing printing: “… Bathroom Window etc.” 1 inlay, Front: light-brown Gold-inlay series, printer identification not listed on inner flap. Song titles, composer and publishing info. Note: No Apple logo on back flap, plus “An EMI Recording” written on the inner flap… Track order does not reflect the original LP - here only the first tracks of each side of the original LP have swapped places. Inlay reverse: Upper-cased “this stereo musicassette…” info, plus EMI blurb – black ink. Presumed date would be around 1981 for printing – Light brown gold colour on inlay (dates to c. 76-85); white shell, blue ink (dates to c. 77-82). Cassette bought in ’82.
BiggieTembo 1st Apr 2014		Cassette Album Traffic - Traffic	No concrete notes or release date added, as there's sure to be earlier issues that pre-date this (1984) one. Traffic Traffic (Cassette Album, UK, 1984) Island ICM 9081 Inlay: Printed on one side. Barcode on back flap (5 014474 270819), plus song titles. Facsimile of LP cover on front panel (slightly cropped), with Island Life Collection 25 Years series, silver overprint/logo, upper right-hand corner “Traffic” typeface at top mirrors the original LP’s typeface. Inner flap displays song titles, composers, publishers and producer credits. Cassette: White shell, black ink. Island logo, Date: 1968; Dolby double-d’s. Mock screws on Side 2. Island Life 25 years reissue series – Island Records founded 1959; 59+25=1984
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Rock 'N' Roll Music Volume 2	Added scans of early 80s issue: 1 cassette, white cassette shell, printed with blue ink. “Circle” MFP and Dolby logos. EMI couldn’t be arsed to print the song titles on the shell for this one, so they just vouched for the classic “See inlay card for details”. 1 cardboard wraparound inlay. A presumed date would be around 1980 for printing – white shell, blue ink (dates to c. 77-82). Cassette bought in ’80. In Boots. For £1,25 (used to be 99p). The Cassette was displayed hanging on a tall carousel; it had a cardboard back-plate (with a hook-hole), to which the cassette was fixed to, by means of a plastic moulded cover, glued onto the plate. The cardboard back-plate had the same artwork on as the cover. The back plate is, however, long-since gone… and the wraparounds, like most of the others issued, are also damaged, mainly by struggling to fit them into 1970s cassette storage racks that weren’t designed to have cardboard-coated cassette boxes shoved into them. A recipe for disaster, for sure. I mean, what was EMI thinking?
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - 1962-1966 [The Red Album]	Ahhhh... I see..... EMI stock-piling inlays, aye! Of course it sounds completely feasible. Thanks for pointing this out. Reminds me of this kind of mix-up with the Beatles' Danish LPs. Many of the records themselves were pressed in Denmark, but all the sleeves had "Printed by Garrod & Lofthouse, London" on them. So what did they do then - import the sleeves, but press the records domestically? It's the kind of logistical nightmare that only The British Empire could come up with...
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Abbey Road	Added scans of the 1977-1982-period “light-brown gold colour” inlay and “white shell-blue ink” cassette. 1 cassette, white cassette shell, printed with blue ink. Apple logo. Dolby B Double-D logo. Side two peters out on the track listing printing: “… Bathroom Window etc.” 1 inlay, Front: light-brown Gold-inlay series, printer identification not listed on inner flap. Song titles, composer and publishing info. Note: No Apple logo on back flap, plus “An EMI Recording” written on the inner flap… Track order is messed up again – UNLIKE the 8-track this time – here only the first tracks of each side of the original LP have swapped places. (Web-watchdogs: Does this mean it warrants a separate issue? If so, be my guest ;-)) Inlay reverse: Upper-case-lettered “this stereo musicassette…” info, plus EMI blurb – black ink. Presumed date would be around 1981 for printing – Light brown gold colour on inlay (dates to c. 76-85); white shell, blue ink (dates to c. 77-82). Cassette bought in ’82.
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - 1962-1966 [The Red Album]	Added scans of the 1973-1993-period “dark metallic gold inlay” type, purchased in 1982. 1 cassette, Double Play Tape, white cassette shell, printed with blue ink. Only the Dolby B Double-D logo on this issue. 1 inlay, Front: brown metallic Gold-inlay series, printer identification is DP (Data Packing Corp.), and printing date is June 1973 (“7306”) on inner flap. Song titles, composer and publishing info. Apple logo on back flap. Reverse: Lower-case-lettered “the stereo musicassette” info, plus EMI blurb – black ink, as per Kab’s later issue with barcode. Presumed date would be around 1980 for printing perhaps – EMI used the same metallic gold inlay design for this and the “Red” cassette issue, right up until 93, and didn’t issue a lighter-brown version during the 77-83 period. Strange that they also didn’t change the date of the printing too – this cassette was bought in 1982, but the date on the inner flap says 1973, and I can’t think that buying it new in Woolworths in 1982, they still would have had original 1973 inlays in them, especially when the tape is a 77-82 blue-ink variety… ...but stranger things have happened… EMI must have gone into hands-rubbing-together overload in the years after John Lennon was shot...
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	Magic!
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	Hey JordanSongs it sounds positive - we need to be able to categorize past and later releases in some way, and correct and shift around if there's some discrepancies. That way we can really get much closer to which came after what and why and how and so forth, etc. ;)
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Magical Mystery Tour	Added scans of the 1977-1982-period “white shell-blue ink” “light-brown Gold inlay” type, purchased in 1981. 1 cassette, white cassette shell, printed with blue ink. EMI and Parlophone boxed logos. Dolby B. 1 inlay, Front: light-brown Gold-inlay series, no printer identification on inner flap, song titles, composer and publishing info. Reverse: Capital-lettered “the stereo musicassette” info, plus EMI blurb – black ink.
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	Thanks for clarification, Orbiting Cat, but will it not look like a right mess, chronologically? What if, for example, the first upload of the Revolver cassette to this website was a 1987 XDR type? If I had an earlier one, say a 1972 issue, then this would be illustrated as images tacked onto the image collection below the main text - therefore, after the newest set. Then if someone else had a copy that was released in-between of those two, then it would come chronologically "after" again, and so on... Now I'm not expecting you guys to go out and re-program the whole site, but the added notes don't really serve as a connected historiography of the releases. It would be great if a feature could be implimented where you could place the succesive releases in some sort of order ;-) Bit of constructive feedback there ;-) Bigs
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	Hey guys, such great discussions going on! I see what you mean though – The website needs to be more detailed to illustrate the successive issues of each release. It’s particularly problematic for the Beatles’ cassettes because, as you’ll see with the ones that I am uploading, which stem from the era 1980-1982, that there are many older-type reprinted inlays housing newer cassette shell designs. So how do you date that? Also, I’ve noticed that the ”one-entry” style of this website doesn’t do previous or later issues justice, which is really what ”domestic archaeology” sites like these are all about. I understand that it’s confusing, and I understand too that you can’t please everybody, but programming a feature on the website to differentiate between releases of the same item would clear up discussions such as these – and it’s there that the real research and historical story of these items would come to light. Many thanks for your comments, Jordansongs. There’s more Beatles to come ;-) Biggie
BiggieTembo 27th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	You're right, Yankee, but this is a lighter-gold, which points to somewhere around 78-80, according to which printer did the job. Garrod and Lofthouse in this case, as you say. There were Gold inlays from c. 72 onwards, as you mention, with paper labels on the cassettes - these were the "metallic" gold ones that would get covered in your lovely finger-grease (see any "62-66" inlay from this period, and you'll know what I mean...) but as my copy has a cassette of direct-blue-printed ink on a white shell, I would suggest a late 70s-vintage.
BiggieTembo 26th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Revolver	Oh yeah. Never noticed that. They probably didn't give a toss, concentrating mostly on the mono mixings of their tracks in the control room, and the cover art of their LPs. And going to gigs. And taking acid with Peter Fonda. And swanning about with Jane Asher. In Mini's. And all the other diversions that Pop Stars get up to when living in Swinging London in 1966.
BiggieTembo 25th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band	Yeah Top P, that's a great site you're making a link to. Ahh it makes me happy that you too served your Beatle apprenticeship with the Gold-Inlay cassettes. I kinda wish that I had the dosh at the time, to get the XDR ones from 1987 onwards too... but by that time I was into the vinyl side of things... Some of the Beatles' 8-tracks also repeated some tracks to pad out the running times. Sadly I don't have any examples to upload - it all comes from memory. But this link helps - and gives great info for all the EMI cassette, reel-to-reel and 8-track releases, including how to de-code the catalogue numbers, and who printed the sleeves etc.: http://soundhog.moonfruit.com/#/the-beatles-on-8-track/4533430837
BiggieTembo 25th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band	Agree, TopPopper. I collected all the Beatles cassettes after seeing Help! on BBC1, shown as tribute after John Lennon was shot in 1980. The tapes available during my collecting period were the Gold-Inlay series, which came out of the bowels of EMI from the mid-70s to around ’82. You’re right too – it seems that EMI did sod-all to make these tapes reflect the original LPs: the artwork was minimal, the information sparse, and the materials the cassettes and tape were made of – well... I have to say it was junk. There were drop-outs on many of the cassettes, aural ”thumps” in the silences between songs, and the dreaded Double Play tapes... I don’t think I ever had one that DIDN’T chew up at some point. OK, I know – it’s easy to slag off the materials of the day, and many other pre-recorded tapes at the time were also bad - but the worst thing they did was to re-arrange the running order of the tracks on the Beatles’ releases… They didn’t tamper with Sgt. Pepper though, as you mention, but some of the others’ track running orders were re-arranged due to, what I assume must be the following factors: 1) EMI wanted to save time for the listener, so they didn’t have to spool so much to get to the start of Side 2, after listening to Side 1. 2) EMI was lazy, and copied the running order of the 8-track Beatles’ releases for their early cassette releases. Erm... sorry, but I feel that No.2 seems the most likely. If you know anything about 8-tracks, you’ll know that when an LP was released on an 8-track cartridge, the tracks were ”spaced” out over the 4 bands of the 8-track tape as equally as possible, to ensure that when the loop changed over to the next band (8-tracks had 4 parallel-running “sides”), the next track started as soon as possible. Sometimes this didn’t quite work, so some longer tracks were faded-out at the end of a band, and faded-in again at the start of the next band. It was like splitting Side 1 and Side 2 of a tape into Side 1-Part 1, Side 1-Part 2 etc. Cassettes were the next big thing after 8-tracks, so EMI simply copied the track orders of the 8-tracks for the Beatles cassette releases. It’s a shame really, because I grew up thinking that ”Here Comes The Sun” was the first track on Abbey Road; the daft "Good Days Sunshine" was the opener of Revolver (and not the classic "Taxman"); ”Goodnight” was somewhere in the middle of Side 2 on The White Album (erm... it’s called ”Goodnight” guys...), and I even had a fight with some kid at school because he said the first track on ”A Hard Day’s Night” was just that (the tape version started with ”I Should Have Known Better”). Help! and A Hard Day's Night were the ones that suffered the most - the track order might have well been backwards, they messed it up so much. After getting the vinyl versions later on, I felt like my world had turned upside down! Thank God EMI redeemed themselves around 1987, when they brought out proper versions of the Beatles’ LPs on cassette: Good tape materials (no more dastardly Double Play Tapes), good transfers of the recordings with proper Dolby B, artwork expanded and including much of the LP’s images and information – and most of all – CORRECT RUNNING ORDERS ;-)
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Yellow Submarine	Thanks Orbiting Cat - I did exactly that ;-)
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Yellow Submarine	Heh heh - look forward to them ;-)
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - 20 Greatest Hits	There was also a different inlay issue with a "boxed" EMI and Parlophone logo on the inlay's spine. Another pointless compilation from EMI to milk us out of more Beatle-cash. The cassette itself seems weaker than the 80s EMI releases; the plastic is off white and the blue printed ink is not as sharp as the 80s EMI examples. This is the only Beatles tape that I have that has begun to "whiten" on the tape, and they've always been stored exactly in the same box, in the same dry conditions. Whether this is a REALLY good bootleg, or EMI used some really bad cassette manufacturers for this release, cost-cutting in production values, I don't know. It definitley looks "cheaper" than the previous issues.
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Yellow Submarine	Hey that Top Pops guy is YOU - Nice one! There's a Top Pops from 1968 with a version of Voodoo Child on it, which sounds like the cover band is on mogadon - it's so slow! You know it?
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Yellow Submarine	Yeah I know - I got side-tracked by the image of Linda Lusardi from the guy who is uploading the Top Pops Hallmark cassettes... I've already asked for the web controller man to alter it ;-)
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Yellow Submarine	Correction to Notes: Tracks 1-5 make up Side 1, whilst tracks 6-13 constitute Side 2.
BiggieTembo 24th Mar 2014		Cassette Album [no artist listed] - Top Of The Pops Volume 92	Hey that's Page 3 girl Linda Lusardi on the cover, in space-age Kate Bush-type get-up! I bet she lost her heart to a Starship Trooper!
BiggieTembo 22nd Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Rock 'N' Roll Music Vol 1	hey i just did some research and on the great website, "the Beatles uk cassettes," it states that the wraparound and standard "inlay" issue were released at the same time, in 1980. The website is pretty informative. i distinctly remember though, that the inlay versions came after the wraparounds... Or maybe the Boots in Chippenham, in 1980, stocked the wraparounds first... the date rings true, as i got the cassette for Christmas in 1980: an eight-year old transformed after seeing Help! on TV, shown as a tribute to John Lennon, assassinated the same year
BiggieTembo 22nd Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Rock 'N' Roll Music Vol 1	Heh heh yeah those cardboard wraparound covers played havoc with storage, as i remember... It was seldom that i saw cassettes of this type at a later date in second hand shops or at record fairs, and the ones i did see were either emasculated or "taken in" as it were, or extremely worn around the edges! Funny choice of packaging from EMI. Maybe they thought we would display them on the mantlepiece or something. Regarding the date and issuing: the cardboard wraparound was deffo the earlier issue; i distinctly remember that after i bought the wraparound Volume Two, the "inside inlay" version was released later. My cassette outer shell is also white plastic with blue writing, which puts it date-wise before the transparent shell releases. It also seems logical that the packaging would downsize (i.e. from "lavish" to "more economical/practical") rather than the other way around. The cassettes, to add a final note, were packed in a plastic outer covering with an additional printed "Beatles" cardboard back-plate which served also as a hanging hook for the MFP carousel display hat-stand type thing. The printing on the cardboard back-plate reflected the cover art.
BiggieTembo 19th Mar 2014		Cassette Album The Beatles - Rock 'N' Roll Music Vol 1	Hey Guys - I got an outside cardboard wrap-around cassette-cover version of R&RM V2, which I bought in 1980 (in Boots the Chemist), which I guess pre-dates the "inside-the-box" cover you just uploaded. I'll try and get a scan of it uploaded ;-)
BiggieTembo 19th Mar 2014		Cassette Album New Order - Substance	Review Another New Order cassette box set bought in Woolworth's in Chippenham, in 1987. I can't remember how much it cost but I seem to recall that I was pretty narked to pay a hefty wodge of my hard-earned apprentice cash for this costly box. The actual tape of Tape 2 proved to be extremely thin - there was always a point where I could hear the tape beginning to chew up, so I would always stop it just before. The tapes are chrome, recorded in non-Dolby. The sound is bassy, but kind of flat. The packaging is limited (1 inner) compared to the Low-Life boxed cassette (1 vellum inner, 4 postcards). But hey - that's Factory Records' minimalist packaging fetish for ya ;-) * * * * * * * * * According to Wikipedia: "While Substance presents a sizeable collection of singles, there are many omissions and differences to be found from the original single releases: "Temptation" and "Confusion" were re-recorded in 1987 especially for Substance and none of the original versions appear [states this on the inner]. "Ceremony" is the version recorded after Gillian Gilbert joined the band. The original trio version – the first New Order recording following the dissolution of Joy Division — would not be re-released until the Singles collection in 2005 and the re-release of Movement in 2008. "Sub-culture", "Shellshock" and "Hurt" are all edited down from their original 12" recordings[doesn't say this on the inner - it says they're all the 12" versions]. "Cries and Whispers" is incorrectly labelled as "Mesh" on all versions, and only on the cassette version does the original "Mesh" actually appear, itself mistitled as "Cries and Whispers" (to add to the confusion, the iTunes Store release, based from the CD version, labels the "Cries and Whispers" as "Mesh (Cries and Whispers)"). "Sub-culture" is mistitled "Subculture", and "The Perfect Kiss" is mistitled "Perfect Kiss". The standard tape version, due to the extra space befitting the format, also contains extra tracks in the form of "Dub-vulture", "Shellshock", and "Bizarre Dub Triangle", as well as the actual "Mesh". Only on the limited edition cassette version does "True Dub" appear, as the last track on the second tape. On all cassette versions, "Murder" is after "Thieves Like Us" on the first cassette, whereas on the CD/DAT versions it appears on the second half of the album." * * * * * * * * * I have no idea if this box set is the "limited edition" with the extra "True Dub" track as Wiki states (as mentioned above - I was a too scared to play Cassette 2 for fear of chewing the thin tape). It may be the limited edition Wiki refers to, because I remember a standard double-cassette version in a regular plastic "double-cassette" box in the stores at the same time... 3 people found this review helpful. ✔︎ Helpful Review?

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