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Comment by cyeaman SUBS:

I'm starting to get the hang of these OKeh labels, thanks to Han. But, Man! What a tangled web! We didn't even touch on the blue labeled OKehs.

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Comment by Mike Gann:

I had to give you props anyway xiphophilos. You know far more about these things than I do.

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Comment by xiphophilos:

I've re-ordered the images now. And just to set the record straight, han enderman knows far, far more about OKeh pressings than me. I hardly own any of these late 1920s/early 1930s Okeh's, so I have never seriously looked into them.

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Comment by cyeaman SUBS:

Thanks for all of that great information, Han! This is very useful.

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Comment by han enderman:

OK 41486 - Of the (normal) Bridgeport pressings of this record 4 label types are known. I have added #1 AB, #2 B (Mike Gann added #2 A), #3 AB & #4 B (#4 A is on discogs). I assume that the first West Coast pressing was released at about the same time as the eastern version, and this already indicates that the original release is on small black label. When the 13-RE label type was replaced by the 2xRE type (referring to the patent legend at 5), the labels were black. New issues in the OK 40/41000 series with this type (2xRE small black) are 41370-41564. At the same time the registration legend below the OKeh logo was much shortened. The next type, starting with 41565 Clarence Williams, has small red labels with "Not licensed for Radio Broadcast" at 10. This license statement may be absent on some reprints. After a few issues a new red type starts with 41570, with Columbia instead of OKeh in the bottom line at 8, and the legend has a different font. 41588 is the last issue in this series. Before the 2xRE small black labels, there were ELECTRIC red labels with 13-23 patents (Jan '13-May '23 at 5). The last "red 13-23" in this series is 40851 (orig. issue of 40852 not seen; example is 40848 Miff Mole), and 40853 (Venuti) is black. The 40/41000 series remains black, while the 8000 & 45000 special series are red (!).

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Comment by Mike Gann:

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Comment by Mike Gann:

han enderman knows more about OKeh pressings than anyone else I know excepting xiphophilos.

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Comment by cyeaman SUBS:

I've wondered the same. Surely, there must be some OKeh label experts out there. The black labels I added are from a West Coast pressing, but the patent information and needle promotion on the red and black labels are identical. The black label pressings have small (~32 mm) pressing rings, so must pre-date the switch to 70 mm rings that happened in either 1931 or 1932.

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Comment by Mike Gann:

I believe the red labels were pressed before the black labels but maybe I need further schooling on this.

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Comment by cyeaman SUBS:

Mike, why is your image an earlier pressing?

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Comment by Mike Gann:

A-side label image added from an earlier pressing

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Comment by Mike Gann:

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