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mickey rat
8th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Eddie Smith [Blues] - When The Clock Strikes 12 / Now That I Have You (1949)
NOW THAT I HAVE YOU © w & m James
Clyde Miller 10Aug49 EU175596

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Herman Manzy - Back To The Blues / I'm Your Rockin' Man (1952)
BACK TO THE BLUES; w & m Herman Manzy
© Venice Music, inc. 21Jan52
EU262357

I'M YOUR ROCKIN' MAN; w & m Herman
Manzy © Venice Music, inc. 21Jan52
EU262358

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Smokey Hogg - Crawdad / Born On The 13th (1952)
CRAWDAD; w & m Andrew Hogg © Venice
Music, Inc. 13Mar52 EU268479

BORN ON THE 13TH; w & m Andrew Hogg
© Venice Music, inc. 13Apr52
EU272100

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Bumble Bee Slim - Lonesome Old Feeling / Ida Red (1952)
LONESOME FEELING. Lonesome old feeling;
w & m Amos Easton © Venice
Music, inc. 3Mar52 EU266649

IDA RED; w & m Amos Easton © Venice
Music, inc. 3Mar52 EU266648

Amos Easton = Bumble Bee Slim

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Joe Turner - Life Is A Card Game / When The Rooster Crows (1951)
WHEN THE ROOSTER CROWS; w & m Jos
Turner © Venice Music, Inc. 26Nov51
EU257297

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Four Flames - Tabarin / W-I-N-E (1951)
W-I-N-E; w & m Clyde Tillis, Curly
Dinkins, Robert Byrd & David Ford
© Venice Music, inc. 5Dec51 EU261067

Marv Goldberg says David Ford lead vocal on Tabarin and Robert Byrd (aka Bobby Day in later years) lead vocal on W-I-N-E

mickey rat
6th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
Revisiting this, I'm inclined to agree with you, fixbutte, re Pete Kameron's setting up publishing imprints for Art Rupe. Given his involvement with the folk movement in New York with The Weavers and others, "Greenwich" (as in Village) would have been a logical publishing name. Other small mentions in Cash Box indicate Greenwich Music was previously a subsidiary of Hill & Range in New York, operated by Julian & Jean Aberbach. Also Pete Kameron had been the Hollywood manager of Mickey Goldsen's Criterion Music in 1947, and he was a longtime Howie Richmond collaborator so he had important connections in the publishing world and inside knowledge of how the publishing business worked, something that Art Rupe didn't have at that stage.

Uploading two more relevant snippets - hopefully the last, Apologies for Doris Day inclusion but I thought I'd let her stay.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
I have to say that before yesterday I hadn't heard of Pete Kameron but I now see he was a very busy man indeed. I was puzzled by the Key Largo copyright too.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
Keith found his article and posted in 78 forums here. Thanks Keith.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Roy Milton And His Solid Senders - Everything I Do Is Wrong / Hop, Skip, And Jump (1948)
Cash Box snippet from October '48 claims 200,000 sales of this release, an extremely healthy result for a "race" record of that time, and also explaining why Roy Milton and wife Camille Howard (and manager Ben Waller) seem to have had a special publishing deal with Specialty and why their records were always reviewed favourably in the trade mags. In fact their records WERE actually reviewed which is something considering Cash Box at least only reviewed six or eight select R&B records each week in those days.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
At the risk of flooding this entry with too much paper, uploaded another relevant article from October '48... As an aside to this, 200,000 sales on a Roy Milton record would have been very impressive at that time.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Lloyd Price - Lawdy Miss Clawdy / Mailman Blues (1952)
One of Specialty's very biggest hits, probably providing needed seed money until Little Richard showed up. Also justifying Specialty's investment in New Orleans. Fats Domino's distinctive piano intro probably helped too.

LAWDY, MISS CLAWDY; w & m Lloyd Price
® Venice Music, inc. 11Apr52
EU272097

LAWDY, MISS CLAWDY; w & m Lloyd Price.
London, Aberbach. Appl. states
prev. reg. 11Apr52, EU272097.
© Venice Music Inc.; 6Dec57;
EP116051.

Note second copyright is for sheet music curiously filed by U.K. Aberbach and possibly prompted by Elvis Presley's remake of this song. Aberbach officially registered as a publishing imprint in New York on 7 June 1960 as far as I can see.

MAILMAN BLUES; w & m Lloyd Price ©
Venice Music, inc. 11Apr52 EU272098

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Soul Stirrers - How Far Am I From Canaan? / It Won't Be Very Long (1952)
IT WON'T BE VERY LONG; w & m Roy
Crain © Venice Music, inc. 10Mar52
EU267540

It won't be very long; words and music
by Roy Crain, arr. by Kenneth Morris.
20c © Venice Music, inc., Hollywood,
Calif.; 20May52; EP62831. Appl. states
prev. reg. 10Mar52, EU267540.

Note second copyright is sheet music.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Soul Stirrers - I'm Gonna Build On That Shore / Until Jesus Calls Me Home (1952)
I'M GONNA BUILD ON THAT SHORE; w & m
Roy Crain © Venice Music, inc.
18Feb52 EU265416

UNTIL JESUS CALLS ME HOME; w & m S.
Cook © Venice Music, inc. 18Feb52
EU265417

Sam Cooke's first copyrighted song?

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Jimmy Liggins - Low Down Blues / Stolen Love (1952)
LOW DOWN BLUES; w & m Jimmy H. Liggins
© Venice Music, inc. 10Mar52
EU267542

STOLEN LOVE; w & m Jimmy H. Liggins
© Venice Music, inc. 10Mar52
EU267541

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Pilgrim Travelers - Long Ago (Wooden Church) / Please Watch Over Me (1952)
PLEASE WATCH OVER ME; w & m James W.
Alexander © Venice Music, Inc.
10Mar52 EU267543

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Duke Henderson - Country Girl / Lucy Brown (1952)
COUNTRY GIRL; w & m Memphis Evans
Curtis Jr. © Venice Music, inc.
18Sep52 EU289562

LUCY BROWN, w & m Duke Henderson ©
Venice Music, inc. 18Sep52 EU289558

Note R&B artist Eddie "Tex" Curtis was also a prolific songwriter. Cross references in copyright indexes suggest his real name was Memphis Evans Curtis Jr.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Lester Williams - My Home Ain't Here / I Can't Lose With The Stuff I Use (1952)
MY HOME AIN'T HERE; w & m Lester
Williams © Venice Music, inc.
18Feb52 EU265414

I CAN'T LOSE WITH THE STUFF I USE;
w & m Lester Williams © Venice
Music, inc. l8Feb52 EU265413

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Victorians - Naturally Too Weak For You / Part-Time Sweetheart (1951)
NATURALLY TOO WEAK FOR YOU; w & m
Richard Beck © Venice Music, inc.
21Jan52 EU262360

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Jimmy Liggins - That's What's Knocking Me Out / Goin' Down With The Sun (1951)
THAT'S WHAT'S KNOCKIN' ME OUT; w & m
Jimmy Liggins © Venice Music, inc.
3Dec51 EU261066

GOIN' DOWN WITH THE SUN; w & m Jimmy
Liggins © Venice Music, inc. 3Dec51
EU261065

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
I'm thinking maybe the Cashbox wording means Venice was "his" in the sense he was given the job of administering it. The April '49 Billboard article says Specialty placed Kameron in charge of the two publishing firms so I'm guessing Art Rupe created Venice and acquired Greenwich, taking Kameron on in an executive role to administer the imprints and to promote Specialty product. Anyway Kameron doesn't appear to have stayed at Specialty long. He seems to have then had a career in publishing in New York before becoming head of Track International with Chris Stamp & Kit Lambert and American manager of The Who. There's a 1970ish picture of him, middle-aged with long hair and droopy moustache, accepting an award for "Tommy". Everything's connected.

Keith, have a rummage.

mickey rat
5th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Johnny Crockett And His Blue Ridge Pals - Just A Minute / Smoky Mountain Polka (1949)
SMOKEY MOUNTAIN POLKA; w & m John H.
Crockett, Jr. © Greenwich Music Co.,
inc. 9Jan50 EU189582

Note copyrighted nearly a year after record was released. I wonder if this March '49 filing is the same song:

SMOKY MOUNTAIN POLKA w & m Tony Ferragamo
& O. M. Watson © w & m Raymond
Charles McColllster 28Mar49 EU161742

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Earl Nunn And His Alabama Ramblers - Double Talkin' Woman / I've Loved You Too Long (To Forget You) (1949)
Uploaded an interesting (at least to me) snippet from Cash Box in January 1949. Art Rupe seems to have gone into some sort of partnership with Pete Kameron to market a country music series on Specialty. Kameron appears to have had experience in that area at Capitol Records. Two of the first three releases were reviewed in Cash Box and money was spent on a display ad (see above). I assume Billboard received the same. You can tell from the stetson hats that these guys were well outside Specialty's established "race" market. I assume the venture was not entirely successful as C&W DJs and jukebox operators would have been suspicious of anything with that distinctive Specialty label. It would maybe have been better to create a completely new label. Syd Nathan at King was very successful in marketing country and R&B side by side but Rupe's relatively small label would have been out of its comfort zone here. Anyway the Specialty project seems to have been shelved, although the 700 series was revived for a few issues in 1952.

Intriguing too (at least to me) that the CB snippet seems to suggest that Venice Music was initially Kameron's and he was instrumental in acquiring Greenwich Music (ASCAP). Anyone know more about that?

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Camille Howard - Please Don't Stay Away So Long / Million Dollar Boogie (1951)
MILLION DOLLAR BOOGIE; m Camille Agnes
Howard © Camille's Music Co., ltd.
26Dec51 EU259504

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Percy Mayfield - Hopeless / Cry Baby (1951)
HOPELESS; w & m Percy Mayfield © Venice
Music, Inc. 14Nov51 EU255086

CRY BABY; w & m Percy Mayfield ©
Venice Music, inc. l4Nov51 EU256087

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Willard McDaniel - Blues On The Delta / 3 A.M. Boogie (1951)
BLUES ON THE DELTA; m Willard McDaniel
© Venice Music, inc. 19Nov51
EU256788

THREE A. M. BOOGIE; m Willard McDaniel
© Venice Music, Inc. 19Nov51
EU256789

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Roy Milton And His Solid Senders - Best Wishes / Short, Sweet And Snappy (1951)
BEST WISHES; w, m & © Roy B. Milton
28Sep51 EU251496

SHORT, SWEET AND SNAPPY; w, m & © Roy
B. Milton 28Sep51 EU251497

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
King Perry And His Pied Pipers - I Ain't Got A Dime To My Name / Day And Night Blues (1951)
I AIN'T GOT A DIME TO MY NAME; w & m
Oliver King Perry © Venice Music,
Inc. 10Sep51 EU249745

DAY AND NIGHT BLUES; w & m Oliver King
Perry © Venice Music, inc. 10Sep51
EU249752

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
The Pilgrim Travelers - Jesus, I'm Thankful / Who Am I? (1951)
JESUS, I'M THANKFUL; w & m James W.
Alexander © Venice Music, Inc.
5Apr51 EU235016

LORD, WHO AM I; w & m Kylo Turner
© Venice Music, inc. 5Apr51 EU235015

mickey rat
4th Mar 2019
78 RPM
Amos Easton - Strange Angel / Lonesome Trail Blues (1951)
STRANGE ANGEL; w & m Admirl A. Easton
© Venice Music, Inc. 4Sep51 EU249240

LONESOME TRAIL BLUES; w & m Admirl A.
Easton © Venice Music, Inc. 4Sep51
EU249241


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