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scrough 14th Jan 2021		78 RPM Luisa Tetrazzini - La Traviata (1911)	The best we can do with most of these single sided is to add a few months onto the recording date, and then use that year, so 1911 would be acceptable here. That moves it to approximately the right area of our listings, rather than having no date which would put it in the region after the 1960s.
scrough 14th Dec 2020		78 RPM Chippy's Dance Band - Marabi E Lusaka / Siponono Kwa Rhodesia (1954)	EMI (South Africa) Pty Limited was established in July 1957 so the SA manufactured disc is sometime later.
scrough 21st Nov 2020		78 RPM Mr. Alexander Prince - Night Patrol / Concert Polka (1904)	An example of the earliest Odeon 7.5 inch double-sided record. Odeon claimed patent on double-sided records until the claim was rejected by an Austrian Court in 1906. MP3 audio here
scrough 19th Nov 2020		78 RPM Grand Metropole Band - La Craquette / La Mattchiche	It seems probable that the 'source' is one of the 'Bel Canto' group of many labels. Norman Field's page (see Bel Canto on this page) gives some fuller details, and note that three of the labels shown there have the reversed 'N' on 'MADE IN' that we see on the labels here.
scrough 9th Nov 2020		78 RPM Eddie Condon And His Rhythmakers - Yes Suh! / Song Of The Plow (1935)	Frank Andrew's notebook for Parlophone R-2810 also gives the vocalist on 'Yes Suh!' as Billy Banks.
scrough 25th Oct 2020		78 RPM Black Diamonds Band - Haste To The Wedding / The Mary And Dorothy (1922)	Released Aug 1922. You can get the release dates for many UK HMV 78s from our software. See this thread.
scrough 22nd Oct 2020		78 RPM Maria Gentile - Rigoletto (1928)	It was released May 1928. Ronald Taylor wrote a discography {link} covering most UK Columbia 12" releases up to 1930. Many of these are already entered in the next version of dating software to be issued.
scrough 9th Oct 2020		78 RPM Jimmy Shand - Waltzing To Jimmy Shand	The original submitter posted a correction which was accepted : Country of origin does appear to be India as per the "Parlophone Copyright" logo and the comma between Co. and Ltd.
scrough 8th Oct 2020		78 RPM Jimmy Shand - Waltzing To Jimmy Shand	The contemporary black label UK issues have a much longer copyright on the label edge, and the UK label changed to red about this time - Frank Andrews says in October 1955 at R-4061. See linked UK issue. So its true country is a mystery, but it isn't UK !!
scrough 5th Oct 2020		78 RPM Giacomo Rimini - O De Verd'anni Miei / Alla Vita Che T'arride (1912)	More likely to be Italian?
scrough 4th Oct 2020		78 RPM [no artist listed] - Konversation (Deutsch) No. 1 & 2	Eddie Shaw's DATES gives 1928/9 for the original release dates.
scrough 26th Sep 2020		78 RPM Colin O'More - Danny Boy / Kitty Of Coleraine (1928)	It was previously released on Zonophone before Zono was amalglamated with Regal. Added linked release.
scrough 25th Sep 2020		78 RPM Sam Wooding - The Wedding Of The Painted Doll (Mariage de Poupée) / C'est Tout Ce Que J'ai (1930)	Nacio Herb Brown is the composer. M. T. Fields is the vocalist. Mariage De Poupée is the French version of the title. And that's about the limit of my 1968 GCSE in French :)
scrough 10th Sep 2020		78 RPM Eduard Hanisch, Bearb: Sandor Ferenczy, Cond.: Willy Steiner - Der Standhafte Zinnsoldat / Der Standhafte Zinnsoldat (1954)	I've updated the B side too. Tell me if you want it more orange/less red. I've also uploaded a more orange B side.
scrough 10th Sep 2020		78 RPM Eduard Hanisch, Bearb: Sandor Ferenczy, Cond.: Willy Steiner - Der Standhafte Zinnsoldat / Der Standhafte Zinnsoldat (1954)	If you have paint.net go to Adjustments-Levels. Uncheck the 'G' box and move the Output slider downwards until you get the colour you want. I've uploaded an example image.
scrough 8th Sep 2020		78 RPM Miss Jones And Mr. Spencer - Flanagan's Night Off (1906)	After a while on google I found this article {link}. The New York and London adverts imply that both UK and USA issues had the same label style. But under the London advert it states that "London-based Gilbert Kimpton & Company imported huge quantities of Imperial discs" and "In February 1906, The Talking Machine World reported that Leeds had received an order for one-million Imperial discs for export" so I'd question if the earlier statement "mainly sold in the U.S" is entirely correct. Another article on the same site {link} tells us that 'Imperial' was replaced by 'Sun' in 1907 in the USA, so only had a lifetime there of about two years, and also illustrates a plainer Imperial label.
scrough 8th Sep 2020		78 RPM Miss Jones And Mr. Spencer - Flanagan's Night Off (1906)	Frank Andrew's longer article on the label published in 2002 is interesting as it refers to specifically British emblems on the label. "The labels were printed in gold, purple and black and the background depicted the inside of a British monarch’s Imperial cape, trimmed with ermine, draped and drawn into folds, like a curtain, with gold tasselled cords. The titles, and the artists’ accreditations were printed on this royal cape. The whole was surmounted by the Imperial Crown of England printed in gold." Would the same style of label pattern have been used in the USA?
scrough 8th Sep 2020		78 RPM Willy Berking - Klavierträume / Peter, Peter! (Peter, wo warst du heute nacht?) (1941)	Release date updated from 1905 to 1941. It seems this label was active only between 1936 and 1953.
scrough 3rd Sep 2020		78 RPM Miss Jones And Mr. Spencer - Flanagan's Night Off (1906)	According to the CLPGS Imperial Records in Britain by Frank Andrews & Bill Dean Myatt, this record was in the first series of Imperial Records issued in the UK from April 1906 to 1909. Manufactured and exported by Messrs. Leeds & Catlin from Middleton, Cincinatti, USA, all were 10 inches diameter single face recordings. So it seems the disc could be USA or UK issued unless we can find label differences that prove otherwise. See also Imperial-1 on Norman Fields site. DAHR lists it as being recorded in early 1906 with a USA issue in June 1906.
scrough 30th Aug 2020		78 RPM Mr. Dan Leno - The Huntsman (1903)	An X suffix catalogue no. indicates a second issue even if not on the label, so 50-R on 2005 was the first issue,and 49-R was the second.. You'll find 49-R listed on Kelly On-line as a c suffix (Fred Gaisberg) matrix, so probably Gaisberg and Royal (see below) were commissioning new recording equipment sent from America. From Howard Friedman's G&S article Belford Royal, a close friend of Eldridge Johnson, who had sent him to London to supervise the assembly of the gramophone parts he had sent, was given the suffix R, rather than start a b- series. Bennett lists many records having matrix numbers with the R suffix, from as low as 37R in June 1903 up to 268R in early 1904.
scrough 26th Aug 2020		78 RPM Leo Slezak - Ach Wie So Trügerisch / Grosser Gott Hör' Mein Fleh'n (1907)	Recorded in June 1907, double-sided Gramophone Concert discs were first issued in July 1907 in Berlin and Vienna. As this label has 'The Gramophone & Typewriter' company name, its pressing date will have been in 1907.
scrough 25th Aug 2020		78 RPM Xylophone Solo - Donnybrook Fair / Harrigan's Reel (1913)	B side previously released on Columbia-Rena 1127 in May 1909.
scrough 24th Aug 2020		78 RPM Beniamino Gigli - Nessun Dorma! / Quanto E Bella	Both sides recorded 4 October 1949 in London and released on DB 21138 in Nov 1950 in UK.
scrough 21st Aug 2020		78 RPM W. Duncan - By Jingo / He'd Say "Oo La La, Wee-Wee" (1920)	Both Coliseum and Scala used recordings from the Lindström stock (Beka, Favorite, etc) and from just before the First World War they were pressed at Lindström's factory in Hertford. All Lindström assets were confiscated during the war, but the factory continued these 'contract' pressings and reached 1156 by early 1920. At this point Coliseum was matched up with Scala and started using the same numbering, starting at 1200, but as the two entries show, they continued using pseudonyms that they had used prior to 1914.
scrough 12th Aug 2020		78 RPM Tommy Dorsey - There You Go / Boogie Woogie (1945)	Jock_Girl said: "If anything HMV / Victor and RCA Victor should be unified into one flowing label list" - but this is exactly the reason why we have two individual lists rather than one- so folks know where to put an entry without understanding label histories.
scrough 12th Aug 2020		78 RPM Tommy Dorsey - There You Go / Boogie Woogie (1945)	@xiphophilos: For a similar 78rpm example of split listings for a 'single' label see Winner and Edison Bell Winner which was implemented by one of our admins. My feelings are to go with the JLC135 and Jock_Girl suggestion in this case.
scrough 5th Aug 2020		78 RPM Nellie Melba - Valse Aria (Romeo And Juliette) (1904)	This was recorded 20 October 1904. Melba's discs have the key that they were sung in, but to pitch the recording correctly the playing speed was much more useful, which explains why so many have the speed written on them. Many discs were listed with their recording speeds in Gramophone Company catalogues and supplements.
scrough 30th Jul 2020		78 RPM Humphrey Lyttelton - 1956 Super Rhythm Style Series (1956)	Jock_Girl said:Does anyone know if this ever appeared on a red label Parlophone as did this release (R 4212) of Humph's from the same year? Not in the UK - Bad Penny Blues was so sucessful that Parlophone released Humph's next on red label 'popular'
scrough 24th Jul 2020		78 RPM Peggy Lee - Don't Smoke In Bed / It Takes A Long Long Train With A Red Caboose (To Carry My Blues Away) (1949)	I followed your link and it gave me March 1949 (as we have here) - have Discogs changed it in the last few hours? Do they have a spy in our camp :)
scrough 23rd Jul 2020		78 RPM Harold Williams - March On ! / Night Song In Camp (1931)	This is the LO 6 earlier release: [YouTube Video]

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