78 RPM - John McCormack - Silver Threads Among The Gold / When You and I Were Young, Maggie - Victrola - USA

78 RPM Record

Artist:	John McCormack
Label:	Victrola / RCA Victor Red Seal
Country:	USA
Catalogue:	1173
Date:	Nov 1926
Format:	10"
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	3 Own
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	John McCormack	Silver Threads Among The Gold	E. E. Rexford, H. P. Danks	Rate
B	John McCormack	When You and I Were Young, Maggie	George W. Johnson, J. A. Butterfield	Rate

Notes

Side A recorded December 23, 1925
Side B recorded December 17, 1925 (source)

Both sides are electrical remakes of songs recorded earlier in McCormack's career.

Later pressings from the 1940's were on RCA Victor Red Seal.

Images

Number: 859758

THUMBNAIL
Uploaded By: these4578s
Description: A Side Label - Original label issue (Oakland, CA)

Number: 859759

Uploaded By: these4578s
Description: B Side Label - Original issue label (Oakland, CA)

Number: 859760

Uploaded By: these4578s
Description: A Side Label - Later round RCA Victor label issue (Indianapolis, IN, c.1946-47)

Number: 859761

Uploaded By: these4578s
Description: B Side Label - Later round RCA Victor label issue (Indianapolis, IN, c.1946-47)

Comments and Reviews


these4578s 13th Oct 2015		The "cleaned up" version runs at the correct speed of 75 RPM. Perhaps they used a nice smooth 1940s pressing with round RCA Victor labels ;)



xiphophilos 12th Oct 2015		A Side (first youtube video I've seen that stands on its head!): B Side: B Side cleaned up:



W.B.lbl ● 12th Oct 2015		On the bottom of the label, the concentric rings just about to touch the RCA "meatball" logo. Here is the guide to how to identify 78 pressings on RCA Victor as in effect from c.1946-47 to the 1949 closure of the Camden, NJ plant and the retooling of the Canonsburg, PA plant to all 45's (the Indianapolis and Hollywood variants remained, through the 1954 switch to the four-color Nipper "black label, dog on top" design).



these4578s 12th Oct 2015		Correct on both label sizes. It's interesting to see how you find the date of the round label repressing, too :) Out of curiousity, what gives away the Indianapolis pressing on the 1940s issue? I know that the scroll label i posted is from a record pressed in Oakland...



W.B.lbl ● 12th Oct 2015		So that was the little game of Victor - after the Victrola line was discontinued, back catalogue product was shifted to RCA Victor Red Seal. It looks like {Images #859760 & 859761} - whose label size looks like the 3" standard which all 78 manufacturers were using by that time - was pressed between the renaming of the label as RCA Victor in 1946 and the disappearance of the "Manufactured Under U.S. Patent 2130239" notice in 1947 (and in Indianapolis, IN, I might add). I have to reckon the original {Images #859758 & 859759} had 3.375" labels.



these4578s 12th Oct 2015		There is no specific listing of this record in archive.org's Talking Machine World collection, as perhaps McCormack had gone out of fashion somewhat ("With all due respect to the Carusos, the Plancons, the Scottis, the McCormacks, the Tetrazzinis, the Galli-Curcis, the Macbeths and the rest of that brilliant galaxy, there was, at one time, just a little too much insistence upon them. But to-day all that is changed." - TMW, August 15, 1926), or perhaps it was released out of sequence earlier in the year (archive.org do not have TMW from the first half of 1926 available). 1170 is listed for October, 1171 for November, and 1178 and 9 for December, so I have inferred a date of November from this.