78 RPM - Knickerbocker Grill Orchestra - Beside A Babbling Brook / On Hawaiian Shores - Banner [1920/30s] - USA

78 RPM Record

Artist:	Knickerbocker Grill Orchestra
Label:	Banner [1920/30s]
Country:	USA
Catalogue:	1189
Date:	May 1923
Format:	10"
Collection:	I Own It I Want It
Community:	1 Owns
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Track	Artist	Title	Composer	Rating
A	Knickerbocker Grill Orchestra	Beside A Babbling Brook	Gus Kahn, Walter Donaldson	Rate
B	Knickerbocker Grill Orchestra	On Hawaiian Shores	Rudolf Friml, Edward Clark	Rate

Notes

A side (mx. 5120) recorded March 1923.
B side (mx. 5154) recorded April 1923.

Rarer variant of Banner 1189 with "On Hawaiian Shores" on the B side.
The more common release with this catalog number, as announced in The Talking Machine World, May 15, 1923, page 176, features "March of the Mannikins" (mx. 5145) on the B side.

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xiphophilos 29th Feb 2020		I have created a separate entry for the Banner 1189 release as it was announced in The Talking Machine World, May 15, 1923, page 176: Record Bulletins for June, 1923. Han's reconstruction of events sounds eminently plausible. I find it telling that the matrix number of "On Hawaiian Shores" is 5154, whereas that of the B side as announced in TMW is 5145 (with just the last two numbers switched). It is interesting that "On Hawaiian Shores" (5154), as Han says, seems not to have been used for any other Banner or Regal release, although Brian Rust lists it as released on Regal 9473 (in The American Dance Band Discography, page 474). Mp3s of both sides are available on archives.org (probably thanks to our Bob): "Beside A Babbling Brook" "On Hawaiian Shores".



han enderman ● 29th Feb 2020		I have added the A-side of the "alternative" issue. The record was listed in the "Advance Record Bulletins for June, 1923" of The Talking Machine World of May 1923, and this shows that this coupling (Brook/March = mxs 5120/5145) was intended for release in June. Most likely mx 5154 (On Hawaiian Shores) was used erroneously for the first pressing, and labels were printed for the coupling 5120/5154. As the record had been advertised, subsequent pressings got the correct coupling. This explains why the wrong coupling is so rare. In the Plaza-ARC discography of Thomas & Sutton (Mainspring Press 2006) the Banner issue of 5154 is still unknown. Regal 9473 has the same titles as Ban 1189 and was listed in the same TMW issue. Apparently the Banner and Regal records were pressed at about the same time, before the error was discovered. There are no "normal" issues of mx 5154. - The regular issue of 1189 deserves its own entry.



xiphophilos 27th Feb 2020		Yes, that alternative coupling on Banner 1189 would need its own entry, preferably with pictures of both labels.



Mike Gann 27th Feb 2020		If Banner 1189 was pressed with two different b-sides, I would think that it should have a entry of it's own. One of the mods will look into it.



han enderman ● 27th Feb 2020		I have a label image of Banner 1189-B with mx 5145 MARCH OF THE MANNIKINS played by JULES LEVY AND HIS BAND. Reverse is mx 5120. Maybe mx 5154 was erroneously used instead of 5145.



slholzer 3rd Oct 2017		The ODP is not the only source to show an alternate B side on Banner 1189. Rust's American Dance Band Discography lists the A side under Eddie Elkins (Knickerbocker Grill Orchestra is a pseudonym for that band on both sides) and shows it issued on Ban 1189. He lists the B side and shows it issued on an unidentified Banner number (now we know what that is, if you annotate your books). However, he also lists the Samuels side as issued on Banner 1189, which is probably where the ODP picked up the information. (I don't know that it sheds any light (more like darkness) but it is worth noting that Rust lists the exact same threesome of sides on Re 9473). The question is whether Rust is correct and there is an alternate version of Banner 1189, or Rust got the number wrong, as sometimes happened, and what the correct number(s) for the Samuels side is/are.



Bob1951 2nd Oct 2017		ODP lists "1189 JULES LEVY BAND (SAMUELS) MARCH OF THE MANNIKINS" as the B side. The B side on the label shown is "On Hawaiian Shores by the Knickerbocker Grill orchestra".

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