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BigBadBluesMan 8th Aug 2015
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BigBadBluesMan 8th Aug 2015
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BigBadBluesMan 8th Aug 2015
| | Furthermore, the only number on the "Potato Head Blues" label is: W 80855 and the dead wax records the following no.:
W 80855C
The flip side label has only one no. as well: 401689 and the dead wax has the following no.:
W 401698 BA 2 |
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BigBadBluesMan 8th Aug 2015
| | This 78 is a white label promo that lists "Potato Head Blues" as Side 4 - [presumably Side 4 from The Louis Armstrong Story on Columbia - which is also mentioned on this 78 label]. Likewise, the "Knockin' A Jug" side is noted as being Side 11. |
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fixbutte 2nd Sep 2014
| | So BigBadBluesMan, owner and contributor of this record, as you are still active, having added new entries to this site just two days ago, can you do something to illuminate us before someone deletes it? |
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Jock_Girl 1st Sep 2014
| | I have looked everywhere and have found these two tracks on a lots of compilations but never back to back
For example -- they were in Columbia 78 set C-28
http://www.popsike.com/LOUIS-ARMSTRONG-Hot-Jazz-Classics-Columbia-C28-4x78/170631149764.html
but not back to back
This set had them as Columbia 35660 and 35663 respectively
35660 Armstrong Hot Five: Heebie Jeebies/Potato Head Blues
35661 Armstrong Hot Seven: S.O.L. Blues/Armstrong Hot Five: Squeeze Me
35662 Armstrong Savoy Ballroom Five: Save It Pretty Mama/No One Else But You
35663 Armstrong Hot Seven: Twelfth Street Rag/Louis Armstrong & his Orchestra: Knockin' A Jug
I vote that unless an image is posted for this record , it should be deleted |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | Sorry.
SS = single sided.
Yes, it's still missing. But it's here in vol. 4.
Maybe some kind of "partymix" :-) Bad joke.
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fixbutte 1st Sep 2014
| | I hope you understood, that I meant, that the SS records must have been rel. before 1934 :-)
What do you mean with SS records? Is it a typo for US records?
Maybe there was a corresponding 78 rpm record (that's what I supposed, too) but still "Knockin' A Jug" is neither on the 45 rpm nor on the LP. |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | Here is the LP from 1951, so alike with 78s is rather possible. |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | After seeing the 45 cat box, I think there is probably a 78rpm box like that one as well. |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | Yes.
I hope you understood, that I meant, that the SS records must have been rel. before 1934 :-)
It would be nice to have a cat# or picture of a label. |
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fixbutte 1st Sep 2014
| | Thanks Ulf. This disc, if it exists like that, is definitely not from before 1934. According to the submitter's note it is from an album that was probably released in the 1940s: Disc from The Louis Amstrong Story. As the given numbers are the matrix numbers, it has either no explicit cat# (what looks strange to me) or the submitter forgot to add the cat# (what is hard to believe). |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | This could maybe be a coupling from before 1934, and therefore are wearing the two singlesided records cat#. If they are rel. as that, which is possible I think. |
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lorangrecords SUBS 1st Sep 2014
| | According to Edgar Jackson, "Potatoe" was rec. in Chicago May 10, 1927, and "Knockin'" in N.Y.C. May 3, 1929. |
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Jock_Girl 30th Aug 2014
| | As usual with any entry with no image, there are a number of issues with this one. First, the original release was on Okeh in or about 1927
http://jazzlives.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/the-potato-head-mystery-solved-at-last/
Its mtrix number is 80855
Knockin' a Jug looks to carry matrix number of 401689 based on this Australian Columbia 78
http://334578.sub.jp/mov/columbiado2215.jpg
And as we all know, non-USA Columbia releases of USA Columbia recording carried the USA matrix number
But even better, this image is the original Okeh release of that track
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/87V5xwfXhyg/maxresdefault.jpg
Bottom line -- it is really messed up
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fixbutte 29th Aug 2014
| | Strange one. These are definitely matrix numbers. "Potato Head Blues" (with matrix W 80855) was on The Louis Armstrong Story, Vol. 2 album from 1951 and had cat# 39239 on 78 rpm then, see http://www.78discography.com/COL39000.htm, but coupled with "Twelfth Street Rag". That coupling is already on 45cat, see http://www.45cat.com/record/b238 (with cat# 4-39239). It looks like this alternate coupling, submitted and owned by BigBadBluesMan, is a later combination. It should have an own cat# though. |
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lorangrecords SUBS 28th Aug 2014
| | These cat# must be the matr.# or?
The first one is from the Okeh series on Columbia, and is from fall 1928.
The second one is from Columbia popular probably recorded January 1923. |
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